header attempt = fail

well I have a set of pacesetter long tubes that were in my wrecked 04 ram. And since I had them I wanted to see if they would work in a duster. I found out that they are not even close. (was hopeing they would be) it appeared that the headers were going to fit with a slight modification to the firewall, but I found out that even with the mods it would still interfear with the tb on the passanger side, and the drivers side was not going to happen no matter what we tried. (unless we removed the stearing column and gearbox) but that makes it hard to drive the car. I stepped into the money needed to get the tti parts, so I'll just go that route. I have too many other parts of the car that require my time and attention to worry about building headers and motor mounts. (as it sits right now it looks like 6 more monthes before the car will even move under hemi power. Sorry for rambling just wanted to let everyone know that the ram long tubes will not even come close to working. I had them on hand and figured it was worth a shot as it did not cost me anything.

I commend you for trying . . . I think it is a shame Abody owners have to pay such a high dollar for anything close to decent fit, have to basically turn their cars upside down, pull everything including the glove box to help make them fit, or hack their vehicles up to save money. I have a 383 with no exhaust, the proper manifolds are selling for 3 or 4 times what an average set sell for, and headers are gold. MHO

I'll stick with my powder coated cast iron exhaust manifolds.
No leaks either.:-D

the key to no leaks with the hemi, are factory gaskets. I ran them with my headers on my truck for about 8@,000 miles without a single leak.

the key to no leaks with the hemi, are factory gaskets. I ran them with my headers on my truck for about 8@,000 miles without a single leak.

Hey Ramit, I have an extra set of Jeep SRT8 manifolds you can own for a lot less than those TTI's..

if he doesn't want them Tin I'd like second dibs.

Car manifolds... same as Jeep I believe... I am gonna take them off soon, they are new, and would powder coat real nice.

Hey Ramit, I have an extra set of Jeep SRT8 manifolds you can own for a lot less than those TTI's..

thanks for the offer. But I'll go TTI. Because I am building a drag car first and a street car second. So I want all the power I can get out of the motor. I know the SRT's are good manifolds, but I think there is more to be had with the long tubes. And once the motor gets stroked with a set of 09+ heads, and ends up eather seeing a400 shot of nitrous or twin hairdryers, I'll be wanting the better exhaust.

Car manifolds... same as Jeep I believe... I am gonna take them off soon, they are new, and would powder coat real nice.

the car and jeep are slightly different. I have some 5.7 jeep manifolds sitting in the gerage.

the car and jeep are slightly different. I have some 5.7 jeep manifolds sitting in the gerage.

thanks,

good to know.

the jeeps do work and I would think that the cars would to. But I don't know for sure.

The only manifolds that work are the jeep SRT8 versions. All the others (including the 6.1 manifolds) exit into the firewall, or kick out and interfear with the steering.

the 5.7 jeep should work. But I have not tried them. They look like they will. I might try them for you guys as I have them. Hell if I can get a few other sets I'll try them too. I'll talk with a buddy of mine and see what other manifolds I can get.

Hey Ramit, I have an extra set of Jeep SRT8 manifolds you can own for a lot less than those TTI's..

Hi, do you still have the Jeep SRT8 headers? How much are you asking if so? I´m interested. Thanks

Here is a pic of the manifolds. I used the car manifolds on mine

Top SRT8
Car
Jeep
Truck

I'm going to end up with the ram manifolds, but they will be bolted on backwards. To allow easy plumbing for my turbos. I am also going to try a set of ram shorty headers. (bolted on backwards as well) I hate to use the manifolds as they are restrictive, but it might be my only option.

Thank's for the thread 03ramit1, very useful technical information!

Gdemon - is it 5.7 300c manifold you´r runnin on your 6.1??

Yes the 2009 and newer 5.7 car manifold has the same exhaust port as the 6.1.

For those of you considering Jeep SRT8 manifolds, here are a couple pic's I snapped the other day.

very nice tin everything looks nice and tidy like it was very well thought out.

Boy Tin, real nice job! How does the steering column look space-wise passing by the driver´s side header?

Wow those like they fit very nice.Great pics. just wonder how they would do against the factory steering box.

TIN,, that flex plate is for a modern trans correct??

Wow those like they fit very nice.Great pics. just wonder how they would do against the factory steering box.

Or even with torsion bars?
Looks like they may dump right on top of the bars.

Boy Tin, real nice job! How does the steering column look space-wise passing by the driver´s side header?



I'm using a short Ididit coulmn, everything clears just fine.

TIN,, that flex plate is for a modern trans correct??

It's the one that came with the motor, it must be for the NAG trany. The truck converter has 4 bolts not 3. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll have to order a truck one.

well I discovered something new this weekend. I found out that you can use the factory manifolds backwards (i used a jeep cherokee and a durango (because they are semetrical on the angle of the outlets) you have to drill and tap new mounting holes in the heads, but they will bolt on and clear everything just fine. I did this for the ease of mounting a set of turbos. Ooh yeah btw I used the TTI motor mounts. So if anyone plans on going that route you know how to do it. I am planning on trying a set of truck manifolds as they shoot straight back to the firewall (normally) but hopefully the provide a better angle for the turbo setup. I'll keep you guys posted.

I know it doesn't help anybody, but I just ordered a set of the TTI headers today. I can't wait to get them in the next week!

Joe

So has anyone used those srt8 jeep manifolds on a torsion bar 'A' body? If so pics please

So has anyone used those srt8 jeep manifolds on a torsion bar 'A' body? If so pics please
I'm pretty sure someone on here tried them, and they do not work.

Question, what size is the collector on the Dodge Ram exhaust manifold? Im trying to hook up the factory exhaust manifold and was wondering if a Flowmaster #15938 ball and socket 2.5" collector would work. THANKS

they there fellow dt member. Let me see if I have a a small chunk of exhaust for you. I might have the ball part from the factory exhaust. And would send it to you for shipping. I'll check for it this weekend and get back to you.

Hey THANKS!!

I got 22,000 miles of running a rich 10 to 1 A/F ratio using ProChargers UniChip for tuning. My stock cats arent happy. I plan on removing the stock exhaust but leaving the stock manifolds. This way I can return to stock for the Lifetime Powertrain Warranty. LOL

If you got both sides, I will take them. Cut them to 12" stubs for easy shipping. Thanks again.

Oki wanted to update a little I have found that a set of ram shortys sort ofwork for a front mount turbo setup. I was given a set of used dynatech shortys and found that the passenger side ram manifold flipped backwardswill fit on the passenger side of a Hemi in a duster. Buythe welds have to be removed and the flange flipped, so that it will bolt to the headcorrectly. It would save a Tom of time in fabing up both sides. As only the drivers side needs to be fabed up. I plan on postingup pics once I getthem donefo you all to see what I'm talking about. Until then hope this helps someone.

oki wanted to update a little i have found that a set of ram shortys sort ofwork for a front mount turbo setup. I was given a set of used dynatech shortys and found that the passenger side ram manifold flipped backwardswill fit on the passenger side of a hemi in a duster. Buythe welds have to be removed and the flange flipped, so that it will bolt to the headcorrectly. It would save a tom of time in fabing up both sides. As only the drivers side needs to be fabed up. I plan on postingup pics once i getthem donefo you all to see what i'm talking about. Until then hope this helps someone.

pics ??

I'll get some as soon as there is something to get pics of. All I did was drop the header in place and cut up the drivers side. I'll snap a pic or two this coming weekend

Sweet. Thanks for the heads up!

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thats alot of popcorn joe:blob: