Convertible-specific forum????

Do we want a convertible-specific forum on FABO?

no

There are definitely enough differences between them and those that are stuck with that funny metal thing over thier head to warrant one. It would be nice to have a specific place to put all those questions and answers in.

I think it's a good idea.

I agree, but then do we need a notch forum, a hardtop forum, a 2-door post forum?? I agree, it would help a lot, but I dont think it would fly.

hell we may as well have a forum for red cars another for yellow cars yet another for white cars. why not a forum for 4 doors. hell lets break it down to a forum for each year..

there are all ready too many different sections now. we don't need any more.

On the surface it seems like an innocuous idea. However I've found people on the site get very worked up over these things.

Do we want a "Convertibles-Only" forum???

that would be nice.....Artie

It would help but it's really not necessary as a lot of things can be found with the "Search' function

I don't know how it would really help that much.I'm sure that if you ask the questions you will get mostly good answers.But that's just me

I don't think we need a specific forum for convertibles. It's not a bad idea but there enough forums and as someone already said the search function works well.

Why not?

Convertible parts and needs are specific vs fastbacks and notchbacks. I would guess there are more convertibles on this site than Hemi cars.

Based off the posts above why do we need a Hemi forum? There are far more convertible owners then there are Hemi owners. Using the search engine why do we even have any forums? Simple answer is a forum is to keep things organized so people have a forum to look through and get information before posting the same question for the 100th time.

Big discussion on where to get those little wires that push the top out and as of lastnight no one even knows what they are called or where to find them. Until they were posted the other day I never knew they existed. Now I hadn't been on line the topic would have fell off the page and I would likely never known they exist. These little wires can save a $1000 top.

I always hit New Posts, and avoid reading by forum?

Grant

Put it on there for those who want it and for those who dont, well, dont tell them about it!

I always hit New Posts, and avoid reading by forum?

Grant

I use todays posts until I need to look in a specific forum for detailed information on a certian subject. I think the search function is limited to 500 posts.

Using convertible as the search word and include "Search Entire Posts" you only go back to 8/2011.
Using convertible as the search word with searching just "Search Titles Only" you only go back to 2/2008.

Using convertible as the search word and include "Search Entire Posts" you only go back to 11/2008.
Using "Barracuda convertible" as the search words with searching just "Search Titles Only" you only go back to 5/2006.

Since Dart convertibles has been produced longer then the A-Body Barracuda convertibles I think the search results would be even shorter.

I'm going to vote no. But it could be used for tips and questions. It could
be covered in the body/interior/trim forum.
let's see what Joey says.

i'm going to vote no. But it could be used for tips and questions. It could
be covered in the body/interior/trim forum.
Let's see what joey says.

x2

On the surface it seems like an innocuous idea. However I've found people on the site get very worked up over these things.


convertible envy :D

Of course having one specific to convertibles is too much but having one for insurance is ok:wack:

Look i dont own a convert but only good can come from the drop top knowledge that will flow once the questions appear.

convertible envy :d

of course having one specific to convertibles is too much but having one for insurance is ok:wack:

x2.

convertible envy :D

Of course having one specific to convertibles is too much but having one for insurance is ok:wack:


like i said. there are already too many different sections already.

I vote no, and I have a convertible. I think there more similarities than differences between convertibles and hard tops. Just my opinion. :D

It makes a lot more sense then politics, jokes and F-bodies on an A-body Mopar site.

The majority of those with them would probably like to see it.
Those without, could care less.
Really the only difference is the top, but there's probably enough questions to make it a valid forum.
I think it would be a good addition to the site.

I don't have a convertible anything, let alone a-body so I didn't vote. Honestly though, I find it's a good idea. I see there is alot of differences between the cars and I would be interested in reading. Yes, we have alot of forums but, isn't that just an excuse to add another? Honestly the search button sucks for people like me who only know how to search on google.

I say do it.

The majority of those with them would probably like to see it.
Those without, could care less.
Really the only difference is the top, but there's probably enough questions to make it a valid forum.
I think it would be a good addition to the site.

There is a lot different on the convertibles. Place for the pump mounting, pump, cylinders and hoses, electrical to control the pump, sunvisors, mounting for the convertible top mechanism, rear view mirror, top latches, windshield moldings, metal panel between trunk lid and the convertible top, every glass execpt the windshield, rear arm rest panels, ash trays for the rear arm rests panels, arm rest pads for the rear arm rests panels, wiring for the pump, switch on the dash to control the pump, every peice of the window wiskers and window seals, wheel liner, boot, tack strip, snap moldings, rear seat and seat belts and the list goes on.

Then there is repairing/restoring the top mechanism including pump and hoses, installing the convertible top, well liner and pads that no car with a roof has.

Had there been a convertible specific forum I would have saved a ton of money buying parts that wouldn't fit my convertible. Steve (4spragtop) wouldn't be trying to sell the NOS ashtray parts he has, Larwence (VDart) would have likely found out about the door glass difference and I am not admitting how many dollars I spent on my parts that I bought before learning that they wouldn't fit.

I stand corrected there are more differences than I knew about .... maybe we do need a Convertible only forum. My Top is all manual. :-s

Why not just add another one of those 8or9 sticky things at the top of general discussion .
Just a stupid thought

Moe

Oakla you beat me to it. I was just "starting the list"...lol
I dont think people realize how much difference there really is. Not to mention everything you have listed-and that list is not short.

For example... how many hardtop owners know that the vert sunvisors receive the latches and the entire frame and sunvisor is totally different from hardtops?

I too, found out the hard way that door glass is different... VDart, 4spdragtop and I went there:
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=124000

My newest mission is having to repair the rust in the channel/valley at the base of the back window that drains water forward into the front of the rear quarters. Would like to find a convertible person who has been there-done that!

If interested- heres the thread Oakla mentioned that I started:

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?p=1697583#post1697583

Obviously Im biased as I am a vert owner... but there are alot more issues that differ in convertibles than I believe hardtop owners are aware of.

Yes to a 'vert forum!

I have a convertible and thought, no, but after reading the other replies,maybe it does make sense.

I haven't owned a convertible since 98. That said, as the former owner of a 67 Newport vert and a 60 Sport Fury vert, I have witnessed many of the parts differences / lack of good info / has anyone else been here situations. I say go for it.

hell we may as well have a forum for red cars another for yellow cars yet another for white cars. why not a forum for 4 doors. hell lets break it down to a forum for each year..

there are all ready too many different sections now. we don't need any more.

x2 no

There is a lot different on the convertibles. Place for the pump mounting, pump, cylinders and hoses, electrical to control the pump, sunvisors, mounting for the convertible top mechanism, rear view mirror, top latches, windshield moldings, metal panel between trunk lid and the convertible top, every glass execpt the windshield, rear arm rest panels, ash trays for the rear arm rests panels, arm rest pads for the rear arm rests panels, wiring for the pump, switch on the dash to control the pump, every peice of the window wiskers and window seals, wheel liner, boot, tack strip, snap moldings, rear seat and seat belts and the list goes on.

Then there is repairing/restoring the top mechanism including pump and hoses, installing the convertible top, well liner and pads that no car with a roof has.

Had there been a convertible specific forum I would have saved a ton of money buying parts that wouldn't fit my convertible. Steve (4spragtop) wouldn't be trying to sell the NOS ashtray parts he has, Larwence (VDart) would have likely found out about the door glass difference and I am not admitting how many dollars I spent on my parts that I bought before learning that they wouldn't fit.

Thanks for the history lesson dude.
Guess you never seen my vert, I know what they consist of.
Just changed my vote to...Could care less.

I think a covertible Forum is a good idea.Why?? We have forums for every other part of our A-bodies(interior,exterior,suspension,electrical,whe els/tires,Early-a,s)why not convertible too?
Ofcourse this would be up to Joey,as it is his site,we are all here to enjoy it.The covertible guys could learn from posts in this forum to help with a restore.
Good idea 65Val.:cheers:

why not just put any good rag top info thread in the tech archives instead of having its own forum. isn't that what that forum is all about anyway. good info threads get put there.

Why isn't there one already???

I'm game

I agree, but then do we need a notch forum, a hardtop forum, a 2-door post forum?? I agree, it would help a lot, but I dont think it would fly. YES SIR,to much

Thanks for the history lesson dude.
Guess you never seen my vert, I know what they consist of.
Just changed my vote to...Could care less.

Dude, I don't care one bit about your vert. This thread isn't about you. Sure am glad that the fellow that started the Hamtramck Registry didn't have your attitude because we sure would not be enjoying that great site.

I know my car pretty well too. The reason I posted the list is for consideration of people that come looking for information when they just bought their first A body convertible comes here. The nice thing is that a lot of that information crosses to the B-body convertibles and possibly C-body convertibles. I am thinking about future owners and current owners that haven't started the restoration of their rag tops.

I think a covertible Forum is a good idea.Why?? We have forums for every other part of our A-bodies(interior,exterior,suspension,electrical,whe els/tires,Early-a,s)why not convertible too?

Ofcourse this would be up to Joey,as it is his site,we are all here to enjoy it.The covertible guys could learn from posts in this forum to help with a restore.

Good idea 65Val.

Agreed and that is what this site is all about, isn't it. It makes me little difference one way or another since I have learned by trial and error, I am thinking about helping other members in the future.

ok, put one then. the more the merrier.

guess I'm on the fence, my 1st thought was no, after reading the thread comments, might be a good idea.

When I restored my 67 Convertible I didn't have much internet help. Luckily I had a complete car, almost complete 67 Dart GT hardtop parts car, a 68 Convertible parts car.

Yeah it would be a good idea for someplace for convertible info to be gotten easily. Pictures, part numbers, parts common with other cars.

So I would say yes, if not to difficult to set up.

There are quite a few more differences than I thought after doing mine.

295174

295175

If it will make you verts happy...Why not !

The comedian Paula Poundstone had a very funny skit called "The People on the Right Side of the Plane Hate the People on the Left Side". I'm starting to think it applies to 'Hard Tops vs Soft Tops'.......lol

I'm relatively new here. I just bought a '69 Dart 'vert this summer. i have learned a lot from this site already. I have found many things that would have caused me problems if I didn't stumble across the information 5 pages deep in an unrelated thread somewhere else. A 'vert has different flat rear wheel housings than a hardtop? Woulda never thought of that. Now I need to see if a larger tire will fit my vert the same as it does on a hardtop.
Yes, i think a dedicated forum would be a great way to share ongoing information rather than one convertible thread that would just get cumbersome trying to keep up with subject changes.
As far as too many specialized forums here-- I belong to a few B and E Body forums. Imagine my amusement when I found this site with a dedicated Slant 6 forum. Really, a slant 6 forum? I'm sure it's a great forum for those with a slant 6 though.

[QUOTE=Oklacarcollecto;1698368]Dude, I don't care one bit about your vert. This thread isn't about you. Sure am glad that the fellow that started the Hamtramck Registry didn't have your attitude because we sure would not be enjoying that great site.

And its not about you either Richard.

Read my original post...I said it would be a good addition.

[QUOTE=Oklacarcollecto;1698368]Dude, I don't care one bit about your vert. This thread isn't about you. Sure am glad that the fellow that started the Hamtramck Registry didn't have your attitude because we sure would not be enjoying that great site.



And its not about you either Richard.



Read my original post...I said it would be a good addition.



Thanks for the history lesson dude.

Guess you never seen my vert, I know what they consist of.

Just changed my vote to...Could care less.

My comment is based off your less than intelligent smart remark. Not everyone knows there are so many differences.

My name is not dude or Richard just so you know.

I'm relatively new here. I just bought a '69 Dart 'vert this summer. i have learned a lot from this site already. I have found many things that would have caused me problems if I didn't stumble across the information 5 pages deep in an unrelated thread somewhere else. A 'vert has different flat rear wheel housings than a hardtop? Woulda never thought of that. Now I need to see if a larger tire will fit my vert the same as it does on a hardtop.
Yes, i think a dedicated forum would be a great way to share ongoing information rather than one convertible thread that would just get cumbersome trying to keep up with subject changes.
As far as too many specialized forums here-- I belong to a few B and E Body forums. Imagine my amusement when I found this site with a dedicated Slant 6 forum. Really, a slant 6 forum? I'm sure it's a great forum for those with a slant 6 though.

That is something I still didn't know. Never even crossed my mind. I guess that must be to clear the convertible top mechanism. Now I may be in trouble with the 245/60R14 tires I bought.

guess I'm on the fence, my 1st thought was no, after reading the thread comments, might be a good idea.

When I restored my 67 Convertible I didn't have much internet help. Luckily I had a complete car, almost complete 67 Dart GT hardtop parts car, a 68 Convertible parts car.

Yeah it would be a good idea for someplace for convertible info to be gotten easily. Pictures, part numbers, parts common with other cars.

So I would say yes, if not to difficult to set up.

There are quite a few more differences than I thought after doing mine.

295174

295175

Nice car. I wish I could have found a convertible parts car to go with mine.

That is something I still didn't know. Never even crossed my mind. I guess that must be to clear the convertible top mechanism.

Exactly right.

Now I may be in trouble with the 245/60R14 tires I bought.

Shouldn't be a problem, unless you lower the car quite a ways. Thats not a very tall tire. I have 235/70/14's on my Rally's on my Dart vert, and they nowhere-near rub the top of the well.

Exactly right.



Shouldn't be a problem, unless you lower the car quite a ways. Thats not a very tall tire. I have 235/70/14's on my Rally's on my Dart vert, and they nowhere-near rub the top of the well.

Nice peice of Detroit Iron there.

No. It would just make yet another place I have to log in to keep up/watch other builds. The next thing you know, we'll have a "my car is painted the original color and yours is not forum"

I would like it, I've been trying to save any thread related to 67-69 dart converts in my vdart thread--, there is new info that turns up from time to time & always a questions-- it is my quick reference-- I just saved the wire loop thread to it Lawrence

Nice peice of Detroit Iron there.

Thanks Okla.

I would like it, I've been trying to save any thread related to 67-69 dart converts in my vdart thread--, there is new info that turns up from time to time & always a questions-- it is my quick reference-- I just saved the wire loop thread to it Lawrence

That is a great idea.

The biggest waste of forums are the Regional Boards (http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/forumdisplay.php?f=5) in my opinion. Just bordering Oklahoma the states of Arkansas, Arizona and Missouri aren't listed on any board on the home page. This area needs some work on the home page. Personally I don't bother with them because I would have to post to several areas with duplicate posts.

next thing ya know...someones gonna ask for a ''4 door only forum'' or ''hard top only''

Its just a top...

Body/Interior/Trim seems to be one of the busiest forums on the whole site, so maybe breaking it up would be a good thing. I guess I'm thinking of a place for technical posts about convertible top repairs and parts.


A place for general posts about convertible cars just confuses people because of the overlapping nature of the forums. Would a general post about my 65 Dart convertilbe go under "Early A Body Discussions" or "Convertibles Only"?


I don't think it should be called "Convertibles Only".

Since I recently got a 64 Valiant convertible I vote yes, since my first convertible and I have a lot to learn. Like most, I mainly look at "new posts" and barely notice the forum, but when searching for info, the forum categories are very useful.

I'll bet if everybody bought a gold membership, we could have a forum for everything.

That is something I still didn't know. Never even crossed my mind. I guess that must be to clear the convertible top mechanism. Now I may be in trouble with the 245/60R14 tires I bought.

well I have 235/70/14 all around on my car on 6" cragers, THEY FILL THE WHEEL WELLS, front & rear

don't think 60 will work unless you get the right offset wheel, I cannot get my finger between the wheel lip and tire, lip was trimmed as much as possible before painting too.

Thanks for the comment on my car.

My parts car I bought for the aluminum trim on the back of the seat for the boot to attach to. But use many more parts then sold the remains of the car for about what I paid for the car.

That is something I still didn't know. Never even crossed my mind. I guess that must be to clear the convertible top mechanism. Now I may be in trouble with the 245/60R14 tires I bought.

Okla- I have Cragar SS 7" rims... unsure of offset-but sure there is some as I have BF Goodrich 235 60x14 all the way around and wished Id have gone with 245 in back as there is still room even with wheel well chrome trim.

In regards to the poll: I wonder what the total number of convertible owners are on this site?

next thing ya know...someones gonna ask for a ''4 door only forum'' or ''hard top only''

Sounds like a great idea!

Its just a top...

NO...It ain't!!!

I wonder what the total number of convertible owners are on this site?

Yeah, Me too!!

I vote we have one. As far as wheel /tire combo, my convertible has 255/60/15 on the stock wheel well (rear) using 15x7 Ralleys.

we need to keep the brotherhood (and sister :) ) together. it will split the group and we will have people only looking, reading, and giving input in half the sites.

** if it ain't broke, don't fix it **

Okla- I have Cragar SS 7" rims... unsure of offset-but sure there is some as I have BF Goodrich 235 60x14 all the way around and wished Id have gone with 245 in back as there is still room even with wheel well chrome trim.

In regards to the poll: I wonder what the total number of convertible owners are on this site?

I have wondered that also. When Joey gets back from vacation I plan on putting that one up. I think two answers would be appropriate. Yes and No, but I would if the chance came my way or something like that. We already know most people on this site don't have drop tops but there are still a bunch that do.

we need to keep the brotherhood (and sister :) ) together. it will split the group and we will have people only looking, reading, and giving input in half the sites.

** if it ain't broke, don't fix it **

Explain that logic, other parts on a convertible are not convertible specific so if a convertible owner wanted to know about replacing his 7 1/4 rearend with an 8 3/4 he would look for that information in the Transmission and Drivetrain Tech forum not a forum that deals with convertible tops.
I read by todays posts and not by forum. I read the posts that interest me and skip the others. I only use the forum headings when looking for specific information that would be found on that forum. I have no Hemi and that forum doesn't interest me personally so I don't read it but I would defend keeping it for those that do read it. Slant 6 forum doesn't interest be because I don't have or want a slant 6 but once again there are plenty of members that do have slant sixes and that forum is needed for them. Insurance is another forum that has not taken off and would work just as well in General Discussion but it doesn't bother me because when it pops up on todays post I don't read it unless I want to. I am sure that the hard top people could care less about the convertible specifics until the get a convertible.

:Okla...I like the way you think!!!.... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

:Okla...I like the way you think!!!.... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

X2 I read thru quite a few of the forums, and only have 1 car. It is all about learning even if you dont have a vert or notch or post or hardtop

I say no for this reason. I"ve learned a LOT reading incidental posts that caught my eye. I've learned that post car windshields are different than hardtops, something I never considered. Saved me from buying a windshield that would not have fit.

Convertibles "FLEX" therefore it's likely that someone might write an article on stiffening the body/ frame connectors, etc, that some of us might find interesting.

If you hide this kind of stuff in yet another obscure special forum, it might get lost.

I say no for this reason. I"ve learned a LOT reading incidental posts that caught my eye. I've learned that post car windshields are different than hardtops, something I never considered. Saved me from buying a windshield that would not have fit.

Convertibles "FLEX" therefore it's likely that someone might write an article on stiffening the body/ frame connectors, etc, that some of us might find interesting.

If you hide this kind of stuff in yet another obscure special forum, it might get lost.
If, when you log on to the site, you click on "New Posts", ALL new posts will pop up in the search since your last visit, regardless what forum they're listed under.

I would like to see the Vert forum, but I guess I'm out voted. We really need a slant 6 forum, though.
Whatever...............

George

why not

If, when you log on to the site, you click on "New Posts", ALL new posts will pop up in the search since your last visit, regardless what forum they're listed under.

I would like to see the Vert forum, but I guess I'm out voted. We really need a slant 6 forum, though.
Whatever...............

George


there is a slant forum

So far, the stats show a 2:1 split. Still 70 people in favor?

Sounds like enough interest to me!

So far, the stats show a 2:1 split. Still 70 people in favor?

Sounds like enough interest to me!


30% to date of what I would imagine is a predominantly hardtop community...
I would have to say there is obvious interest.

With more that 1300 views on this topic so far I would agree there seems to be an interest

30% to date of what i would imagine is a predominantly hardtop community...
i would have to say there is obvious interest.

x2.

hey joey, while you are at it, could you put up a "for340-bodiesonly" also.?????????????????

id rather have a convert section than the f-body.
i say ditch the f-bodies and replace it with a body stuff, like covert section!

With the no's leading 2-1 would not count on it happening.......

If we are going to have a forum for different A bodies the don't forget '74 or '73 to '76 dusters...they are different ( and less appreciated) than the early ones...and parts are different as well..

Do we really want to focus on our differences... ???

Grassy

With the no's leading 2-1 would not count on it happening.......

And how many were in favor of the Auto Insurance (http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/forumdisplay.php?f=94) forum? Put up a poll on that topic and see the results. A whopping 14 threads in 14 months.

I agree, but then do we need a notch forum, a hardtop forum, a 2-door post forum?? I agree, it would help a lot, but I dont think it would fly.

Don't forget a '67~'69 Dart fastback forum......lol.....and Superbird Barracudas too.

convertible or hardtop. they are all still just abodies.
no convertible forum.

No thanks

Ok, for all you "NO" guys, I guess I'll just have to ignore the "Slant 6" forum, because I dont have one....and how about "4 speeds", "New Hemi's " and "Forced Induction" sections...again, none of which I have?????

"focus on differences"???...everyones car is different!

Sure are some pretty petty excuses here.

Just my $0.02....

While this topic I'm all for, what work has to be done for this to happen? I have no concept of creating another topic specific header.
I really enjoy this site & like others I usually only read the new posts & the ones I have saved in my own thread.

So if this could be accomplished simply, then by all means do it, but if it is a process then move on-- don't need any drama about it!!

either way Thanks for FABO!@!
Lawrence

And how many were in favor of the Auto Insurance (http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/forumdisplay.php?f=94) forum? Put up a poll on that topic and see the results. A whopping 14 threads in 14 months.

I've been thinking the same thing for the last few days!

While this topic I'm all for, what work has to be done for this to happen? I have no concept of creating another topic specific header.
I really enjoy this site & like others I usually only read the new posts & the ones I have saved in my own thread.

So if this could be accomplished simply, then by all means do it, but if it is a process then move on-- don't need any drama about it!!

either way Thanks for FABO!@!
Lawrence

Joey has to do it.

Joey has to do it.

What Joey ever he does will be the final answer.

If the answer is no then I like VDart's method and may create my own thread gathering up information posted on other threads plus other sites that is important 67 to 69 Barracuda convertible specific. This is the best method since I already tried saving it all in one place on my computer until it crashed causing me to looose everything.

Maybe since VDart has a Dart Convertible thread, I can start a Barracuda Convertible thread, someone else can start early Dart Convertible thread, someone can start a Valiant Convertible thread and there is already a Birth of a 1970 Dart Convertible thread.

I like FABO and really have learned a lot on this site but what are the dang wires called? Where do I find a set because I can't afford to loose another expensive convertible top?



http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/attachment.php?attachmentid=294235&stc=1&d=1327502116

What Joey ever he does will be the final answer.

If the answer is no,....


If Joey says "No", then I'm leaving and never coming back!!!!!

(Just kidding, although there are probably some members who would like just that to happen!):blob::blob::blob:

I voted yes
but only if it is a convertible, four door, station wagon, fastback, forum
otherwise I will not read it

I guess my thought is that CONVERTIBLE was an option for abodies... not specific to one model...
like a/c, big block or small block, 4spd etc. All of which have forums.

I understand some thoughts that body/interior/trim is a valid forum spot for discussions but feel a CONVERTIBLE forum would allow specific questions/problems/issues to be better identified in a distinct venue.

If Joey says "No", then I'm leaving and never coming back!!!!!

(Just kidding, although there are probably some members who would like just that to happen!):blob::blob::blob:

Can I go too?...... Wait a minute if you ain't goin I ain't goin either.

I guess my thought is that CONVERTIBLE was an option for abodies... not specific to one model...
like a/c, big block or small block, 4spd etc. All of which have forums.

I understand some thoughts that body/interior/trim is a valid forum spot for discussions but feel a CONVERTIBLE forum would allow specific questions/problems/issues to be better identified in a distinct venue.

I agree but the decision isn't ours to make. Maybe Joey will chime in soon and end the discussion with his decision.

OKay, I made the forum for you guys.. :)

Can I go too?...... Wait a minute if you ain't goin I ain't goin either.

Hey Okla...we gotta stick together buddy!!!

****New forum!!!...Just for us 'Vert guys!!!****


Thanks Joey!!!