Spitfire Header install PIX.... 63 -66 a-body!

Well heres the 360, all tunnel rammed up and no where to go... those manifolds are my weak link.....
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4544.JPG

http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4546.JPG

the 1 7/8 pipes go to 2" after they get throught the tight a - body suspension

http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4552.JPG

here they are side by side...
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4553.JPG

http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4554.JPG

The drives side slides in without a hitch - well i had to pull the colum to get the manifold off anyway! ;D

http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4551.JPG

THe collector dumps right after the starter, and it is not captured by it at all.

tha passenger side has to have the 90 degree filter set with the filter at 3 oclock ( standing on the pass side)
other then that they drop right in also, no lifting the motor...etc
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4541.JPG

It figures that the column shift hits the last tube completely.... ? cant ding in a whole friggin tube? cut the column and add 3/4 inch!

http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01607.JPG

( it took me awhile to grow a set and cut it tho... ;D)

http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01608.JPG

no goin back now... is there?
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01609.JPG

with a little help from A-Body Joe we get it fit up and streight!
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01610.JPG

here it is mocked up... the 3/4 inch made alot of difference!, and I cant notice the wheel 3/4 of an inch closer...
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01613.JPG

all welded up... good thing i just replaced the bearing...
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4572.JPG

All blasted and ready to go!
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4573.JPG

here they are with powder, Eastwoods hi temp powder... silver
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4575.JPG

"honey... the manifolds done..."
sittin next to the cast iron powder from eastwood also...
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4577.JPG

ta da...
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4578.JPG

In the car!

http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4582.JPG


http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4587.JPG

Next is exhaust cutouts.. so I made up a template to fishmouth the 2 1/2" dumps...
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01644.JPG

ready to be welded up..
http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01643.JPG

Now I just need about 1 foot of 2 1/2" pipe bent and I am good to go!

Sweet man looks great

Looks really good. How about a few details on that 360? So was the video before or after the header install?

Looks really good. How about a few details on that 360? So was the video before or after the header install?
Yes what is the engine combo? Very nice work!

Excellent photo sequence! I can read stuff like that all day....

Pretty motor and nice workmanship. :thumleft:

Looks really good. How about a few details on that 360? So was the video before or after the header install?
Yes what is the engine combo? Very nice work!

the video is after the header installation, no pipes or anything...streight outts the collectors...I bet my neighbors luv me!

as far as the motor...
78 360 - standard bore
stock valves, MP valve springs to match the cam
stock bottom end + kb flat tops + windage tray
high vol oil pump
double roller timing chain
mp p4452992 - .474 lift 280 adv dur cam
eddy street tunnel ram - jet hot coated with milodon valley tray underneath
2 holley 390 vac sec carbs with lightweight spring kit and balanced secondaries
mp electronic dist + lightweight spring kit
jacobs coil
taylor purple plug wires
champ plugs with .55 gap as per jacobs coil
mp 175k converter
904 + b&m transpack
3.32 sure grip in a 8 1/4 rear

i guess thats it.. it's a mild motor!
Just not as mild as my old 318!!!

mmm, 3.23s in an 8 1/4? that gives me some confidence in my choice to maintain the 8.25 in my car..

8.25 is great, my wife's Valiant with 383 have one and now after 16 years in street driving and over 120 racestart, it had broken once, diffentrial lock went broke...

sounds good to me. so i guess my goal of 300Hp for my car is quite feesible with the rear end thats in it :)

Excelent Job.
The one question I have is- Why does your car have a column shift? Didn't all Barracudas come standard w/ a console shifter?

my car was originanally a /6 auto on the column...

Just figured I'd add that I just ran a 12.80 @ 108 with some stickies at atco a few weeks ago... now were talkin!

Excellent!! :supz: That's almost the same 360 build I have in my Vart and I'm hoping for mid to low 13's on street tires and high 12's at the strip with some stickies out back. Gotta love those lightweight pre 67 A Bodies. Good work, and thanks for the great photo spread on the header installation. :thumblef:

DJVcuda: didn't lengthening the steering column cause the housing to stick into the passenger compartment further? Or did you cut some off the housing too?

Having the steering wheel closer to me, further away from the dash, would be very annoying!

when I built the car I adjusted the column as close to the dash as possible - (i'm like you!)

I added 3/4 of an inch to the total length of the shaft, and yes the wheel is 3/4" closer, but I didnt notice it.

of couse it is acolumn shift car, if it was a console car I would not have had to cut anything!

I had never visited this site before. I thought this description of the Spitfire installation was great. I have a '66 Barracuda that was a \6 3 on the tree & put in a 340 4-speed several years ago. I did the Spitfire installation, but did not need to cut the steering column - but it was a helluva tight fit. I had the Spitfires ceramic coated & today they still look like new.

DJV, the pics of the header install are way cool! However, I got a little lost on the exhaust pipes and cutouts. The Spitfires flanges are above the torsion bars, right??? So you built Exhaust pipes to get past the t-bars and added on the dumps??? The pics of the "fishmouthing" don't show the jig you mentioned, but that fit needs to be quite precise, doesn't it? I would like to see the jig, unless you're building these up for others and keeping your cards close to your vest.
If _that's_ the case, we'll need to talk after I get my Spitfires!

Nice work, and excellant pics.

Will these work on a 69 Dart? If the 66 is a tight fit, the 69 should have some breathing room? If these will fit, it would eliminate the requirement to disassemble the suspension and lift the engine to install them.

on a 69 i'd recommend getting a set of tti's ..

as far as the fishmouthing - i'll post some pix of the finished product...

http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_5-18-05%20003.jpg

my 318 is running 13.71@101mph with spitfires, but i personally do have leaks.... right where the header hooks up to my exhaust....

I spoke to Harold(spitfire), over the weekend. Right now his leadtime on headers is about 2 weeks. If anyone needs a set, call him at: 1-479-650-9989
price is $225 delivered cod

I've looked at this thread numerous time and never thought to ask will these headers fit a p/s car?

Will not fit with PS on the 63-66 "A" body. Will fit 67 up with PS.

Hello,
I just received a set of Spitfires from Harold. I have a second set on their way next week. As was already mentioned, they are designed to work with a manual steering box. He is selling them for $225 COD. You can reach him at 1-479-650-9989. You can also e-mail him at sptfirehdrs01@cox.net.

I bought a set for my 64, and for my 66.

In terms of the conversion from power to manual steering, I bought an adapter from a guy at the Fall Fling. I paid him $45. He told me that Mopar created the adapter, and for a while it could be found in junkyards. He has also an adapter machined that does the same thing. I did not get him name, but the machined part was $55. This is MUCH better than the $140 I have seen for other adapters. I am sorry, I will try to figure out his name, or contact information.

Thanks!

Clint S

Does anyone know if these headers will fit with a 10.5inch flywheel aluminium bellhousing? Also how is the port fit on a set of air injected heads. I have the holes pluged on mine,so no worry about a leak there. I just wonder if they will bolt flush because of the extra casting below the exhaust port?

mine are air injected heads, they fit fine...

couldent tell you about the flywheel...

Does anyone know if these headers will fit with a 10.5inch flywheel aluminium bellhousing? Also how is the port fit on a set of air injected heads. I have the holes pluged on mine,so no worry about a leak there. I just wonder if they will bolt flush because of the extra casting below the exhaust port?

Since you have to have an exhaust shop weld up-to the collector, the larger 10.5 bellhousing isn't a problem. For me personally, my modified z-bar used to work with the 10.5 bellhousing placed it right below the collector, so it seemed as if it would be difficult for an exhaust shop bend things up into the collector. With that said, I have seen other people's z-bar and it didn't look like a problem at all.

I have sense tried to start working on using some Doug's instead of spitfires.

I guess I will wait till later on this year and take a gamble. My z-bar is located in the stock local but my z-bar is a custom billet steel piece (got tired of the old ones breaking) and the arms are at a different angle and geometry then the stock piece. Thanks for the info guys.

Did you guys weld the collector flanges on before or after installation?

Will the header go on and come off with the flanges on WITHOUT removing the steering shaft? (I know the stock manifold won't)

I'm starting the engine swap today, and my exhaust guy isn't in on the deal yet. I know I shoulda asked this question before today.......

i think djv fit the headders then welded the flange on so he knew how to position thm for bolt access.

That makes sense.

Harold's prices have gone up. I got mine 3yrs ago and they were $150 to my door. Never had any problems with leaks or anything, fit nice. They'll also fit 60-62 Valiants and Lancers - no power steering of course.

Is there a email address to contact Harold Johnson , or how did you get a hold of him to order headers.? I am finally ready to dive in to headers on my 65 dart. Do you know if they fit a power steering car?

try this number.. 1-479-650-9989

Thanks, I just called and left a message!

Excelent Job.
The one question I have is- Why does your car have a column shift? Didn't all Barracudas come standard w/ a console shifter?


Both 66 Barracudas I have had came with 273s, 904s and column shift.

mine was a six cylinder car and came with the column shift...

The 66 Barracuda I bought a couple of weeks ago is also a slant with a column shift. Must have been quite common from the responses I've seen here.

It seems to be common on the '66 models. Every auto trans '65 I've seen had the shifter on the floor, but my Mom's 65 with a slant six had three on the tree.

Hey man i just orderd a set of spits today for my `65GT Itl be a 318w/360hds cut for 202and 160s with an ld4intake ported an 8 3/4 dif w/323 shure grip and also A833 4spd thanx alot for the pics Harold said they are drop in look to be the "fish plate"is where for what??also i noticed you opted for 3 bolt flange? does this give me enough room at the Zbar for 2.5"?? thanx

JAHSH so whats the deal with your Z bar ive been told variing things like the throw fork has to be modedtoo is this true and if so what OTHER surprises am i in for to put a10 1/2 bh Z bar 833 with spits?? any help helps thanx

My '65 has a stock column shift automatic. The '65 is the only year that has the shift and park cable adapter box on the steering column just ahead of the firewall. Will the spitfires clear this stock setup or do I need to convert to a floor shift?

I can't remember when I ordered mine from Harold, but I just got them!

Where did the great pics go from page one??????

Engine swap this winter!

I'm expecting my Spitfires in the mail sometime over the next couple of weeks. What ever happened to the pictures on this thread? Pics are missing from BBD as well.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070820121552/www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=2735


http://web.archive.org/web/20070820121552/http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4582.JPG

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http://web.archive.org/web/20070820121552/http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01609.JPG

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http://web.archive.org/web/20070820121552/http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01610.JPG

here it is mocked up... the 3/4 inch made alot of difference!, and I cant notice the wheel 3/4 of an inch closer...

http://web.archive.org/web/20070820121552/http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSC01613.JPG

all welded up... good thing i just replaced the bearing...


http://web.archive.org/web/20070820121552/http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4572.JPG

All blasted and ready to go!

http://web.archive.org/web/20070820121552/http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4573.JPG

here they are with powder, Eastwoods hi temp powder... silver

http://web.archive.org/web/20070820121552/http://www.dodgecoronet.com/gallery/albums/userpics/DSCN4575.JPG

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Too bad they wont work with p/s or I would get a set.

Can someone tell me what size the tubes and collector or outlet piping are on the Spitfires? Also is the phone number listed here still good for Harold? Thanks.

Can someone tell me what size the tubes and collector or outlet piping are on the Spitfires? Also is the phone number listed here still good for Harold? Thanks.Can,t help with the measurements,but I know the # for Harold at Spitfire is good.I ordered mine with the flanges off so I could add pipe to clear past my torsion bars.

I can't remember when I ordered mine from Harold, but I just got them!

Where did the great pics go from page one??????

Engine swap this winter!
what has your experience with Layson's been to make you post a
"Don't deal with Layson's, in person or by mail" message ?

billbrowncrs@juno.com BILL-Cols,OH

cant help notice the way the 2 forward cylinders go into the side of the main collector, looking for hedders for a serious 413 cid small block, that simply cant be good for performance, how well does the tti fit, will not have an issue with torsion bars, wont have any!!!!
Luke

I have a 66 Barracuda and I'm dropping a 318 in her. I have a set of Hooke Competition Headers that are supposed to make the tight fit. I'm a little worried but will attempt to go for it. I will post pics shortly.

Well heres the 360, all tunnel rammed up and no where to go... those manifolds are my weak link.....
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4544.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4546.jpg

the 1 7/8 pipes go to 2" after they get throught the tight a - body suspension
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4552.jpg

here they are side by side...
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4553.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4554.jpg

The drives side slides in without a hitch - well i had to pull the colum to get the manifold off anyway! ;D

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4551.jpg

THe collector dumps right after the starter, and it is not captured by it at all.

tha passenger side has to have the 90 degree filter set with the filter at 3 oclock ( standing on the pass side)
other then that they drop right in also, no lifting the motor...etc
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4541.jpg

It figures that the column shift hits the last tube completely.... ? cant ding in a whole friggin tube? cut the column and add 3/4 inch!
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSC01607.jpg

( it took me awhile to grow a set and cut it tho... ;D)

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSC01608.jpg

no goin back now... is there?
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSC01609.jpg

with a little help from A-Body Joe we get it fit up and straight!
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSC01610.jpg

here it is mocked up... the 3/4 inch made alot of difference!, and I cant notice the wheel 3/4 of an inch closer...
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSC01613.jpg

all welded up... good thing i just replaced the bearing...
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4572.jpg

All blasted and ready to go!
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4573.jpg

here they are with powder, Eastwoods hi temp powder... silver
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4575.jpg

"honey... the manifolds done..."
sittin next to the cast iron powder from eastwood also...
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4577.jpg

ta da...
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4578.jpg

In the car!

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4582.jpg


http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSCN4587.jpg

Next is exhaust cutouts.. so I made up a template to fishmouth the 2 1/2" dumps...
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSC01644.jpg

ready to be welded up..
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad164/DJVJR75/SPITFIRES/DSC01643.jpg

Now I just need about 1 foot of 2 1/2" pipe bent and I am good to go!

Found the pix