Ok i just spent the last 3 days trying to get hedman b body headers to fit my 440 with power steering in my dart. The outcome you may ask...
The right side isnt as nice as i would like but it is on and no totally smashed tubes. The left side on the other hand is cut up into a million pieces laying on the shop floor. I rebuilt a couple tubes. I just cant seem to make it fit. Id be better off getting a build your own kit.
Talk about frustrating. But I dont want fenderwells and the guy at schumacher said his probably wouldnt fit with my fast ratio pitman and idler. I figured id rather cut up 125 dollar headers than 600 dollar ones.
Is there anything out there i may have over looked that could work with the power steering??
HawaiiDuster
05-22-2004, 05:46 PM
It seems like power steering kills it for everything. I can't even get headers for my Valiant with a 273 because it has power steering :evil: Sorry I don't have a solution for you, but I feel your pain. Have you checked into the TTI headers to see if they had an application :?:
yeah power steering box is quite a bit bigger than the manual one. makes everything tight. But for your small block the spitfire headers will fit great. I used them on my dart till i decided to swap in htis 440. I knew i should have went with a b engine.
TTi says their headers wont fit with power steering either.
HawaiiDuster
05-22-2004, 06:09 PM
Spitfires won't work, I got a 65 Valiant. They only work with power steering for 67 and up :(
johncambridge
05-24-2004, 11:40 AM
TTi's 2" won't fit with power steering, but they make 1 3/4" headers that will fit.
HawaiiDuster
05-24-2004, 06:32 PM
It would be nice if they made one for the 65 with P/S. I would settle for one with 1 1/2" for the 273
TTi's 2" won't fit with power steering, but they make 1 3/4" headers that will fit.
dude where?? Ididnt see them on their site. Ill look again though.
here is all i found.
1-3/4" O.D. primary tubes with 3" diameter collectors
440 A-body applications: Clears Manual steering only
Will not clear the quick-ratio extended length pitman arm and idler arm
I have both ps and the fast ratio idler and pitman arm.
HawaiiDuster
05-24-2004, 07:14 PM
Just order them from John, he'll make sure you get the right part. At a really good price too :D
well my wife got tired of my bitchin and ordered me the schumachers. Now i remember why I married this girl. :lol: I figure i can modify the collector relatively easy. I hope
HawaiiDuster
05-26-2004, 07:47 PM
I need to find me one of them girls :wink:
xlr8r
05-28-2004, 05:45 PM
How much were the Schumachers? If I can be nosey? :D
johncambridge
05-28-2004, 06:21 PM
TTi's 2" won't fit with power steering, but they make 1 3/4" headers that will fit.
dude where?? Ididnt see them on their site. Ill look again though.
here is all i found.
1-3/4" O.D. primary tubes with 3" diameter collectors
440 A-body applications: Clears Manual steering only
Will not clear the quick-ratio extended length pitman arm and idler arm
I have both ps and the fast ratio idler and pitman arm.
MY bad, they have updated that listing, not the same as my catalog .
six pack
05-29-2004, 05:26 PM
CPPA's fit im my car B engine with power steering, 1¾ tubes. Did have to clearance the tube by the steering coupler though.
well the schumachers are in. looks like a few dents will make the steering linkage clear.
They cost 625 bucks shipped. That is more than I paid for the engine and transmssion :cry: But they really fit. Installed easier than any other header ive ever put on anything. Look great also.
sorry no pics yet. Ill post a bunch when the car is done. Hopefully this week just have to get interior bacjk together get it wired and a drive shaft made. And a million other little things im sure im forgetting.
