AdamR
06-24-2004, 03:37 PM
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AdamR 06-24-2004, 03:37 PM Which do you prefer ? mikelbeck 06-24-2004, 03:51 PM I voted for small block, 'cuz that's what I've got right now. shg340 06-24-2004, 04:44 PM Same here. Always owned SB Moaprs, no BB's THEWHITEZOMBIE 06-24-2004, 05:39 PM Theres no substitute for big cubes as my dad say but i like small blocks because there easy to work on in an a body but id love to hav a big block Gilby340 06-24-2004, 06:13 PM My dusters got a 340 but I've got a 440 that will take it's place if it annoys me. There's no replacment for diplacement. :twisted: GotDart 06-24-2004, 08:34 PM For drag racing, or even car show wow factor, nothing beats a big block. But for everyday street driving, or SCCA type autocrossing, I'd have to say small block. Cuda66 06-24-2004, 10:35 PM Even though I can't put a big block in my 66 barracuda (without major mods) I prefer the BB. HawaiiDuster 06-25-2004, 05:44 AM Wheres the choice for a "BIG" Small Block :scratch: Sledgehammer 06-25-2004, 06:09 AM I voted! http://2fastdesignz.com/sledgehammer/images/71dartsmallblockengine.jpg This is how I voted. MidTexCuda 07-01-2004, 07:18 PM This was hard. I always like to do more with less. Hard running small blocks are cool but you can't beat the rumble from a big block. I went big block. chad72duster 07-01-2004, 08:03 PM even though I have a killer small block I am already on the look out for a big block to replace it with. A hemi or a stroker 440 or 400 either or. 68dartgts 07-02-2004, 05:52 PM small block forever josh 07-05-2004, 06:19 PM i just put a 440 in my dart. I am now on a quest to rid my garage and yard of everey small block i own. This is my 1st big block and there is nothing like it. :thumleft: dart76 07-17-2004, 10:57 AM Small block all the way. Duster 413 07-29-2004, 08:59 PM I have nothing against small block mopars, but when you really want to get pinned to the seat, you just can't beat a big block.....God I love them..... mrdodge69 07-30-2004, 11:45 PM :thumleft: Small Block gets my vote for an A-body anyway. If it was a B or E body then I would lean to a big block. R/T Magnum 08-03-2004, 03:00 PM I`ve have a 5.2 in the 93 Ramcharger, /6 in 73 Duster, big block in a 69 Dart. Someday the Duster will get the 383 out the Dart. I`m building a 440, stock stroke eddy heads. :thumrigh: demon428 08-06-2004, 08:47 PM I voted SMALL BLOCk when you can have just as many cu in from a small block as from most BB with less weight 4.125 bore X 4.00 stroke = 428 cu. in. R3 small block Dartster 08-07-2004, 06:05 AM Big Block. Just drop the hammer in a 440 powered Dart one time and you'll be convinced. Mopardude 08-07-2004, 06:31 PM Big Block. Just drop the hammer in a 440 powered Dart one time and you'll be convinced. But first you have to drop the 440 into the dart to see what a pain in the ass it is and you'll be convinced to go with a stroked SB. But seriously BB or SB does it really matter as long as its a mopar? Can't we all just get along? :thumleft: THEWHITEZOMBIE 08-07-2004, 06:54 PM ^^ we could but its more fun to fight over whats better! :twisted: Mopardude 08-07-2004, 08:16 PM This is true! rlk340 08-08-2004, 12:58 AM Small block, stroked of course :D abodyjoe 08-08-2004, 08:46 AM Even though I can't put a big block in my 66 barracuda (without major mods) I prefer the BB. major mods???? what do you consider a major mod??? its a bolt in deal... ok so you need to make headders but that is the only thing that you can't buy over the counter to do it.... trust me i know first hand... i have a pretty stout sm block in my dart now. but it just doesn't compare to a big block in an a-body... once you drive a big block a-body your hooked.... http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL188/1015335/1894479/22629050.jpg http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL188/1015335/1894479/22629042.jpg larrysduster 08-08-2004, 09:11 PM Love that small block............. Coyote Jack 08-09-2004, 08:40 AM I voted for the small block. I have a pretty warm 360 right now. That could all change tonight though, after I go look at a hemi. If it turns out to be a 426 all bets are off. I could very well be driving a Hemi Demon next year. :twisted: :twisted: Jack Coyote Jack 08-09-2004, 09:01 AM I voted for the small block. I have a pretty warm 360 right now. That could all change tonight though, after I go look at a hemi. If it turns out to be a 426 all bets are off. I could very well be driving a Hemi Demon next year. :twisted: :twisted: Jack My68Cuda 08-20-2004, 01:42 AM I have had both and you are right. Nothing like the power of a big block but it sure makes the wallet scream when we have to build them. I voted small block because I have all the power I need with my 360. DARTSPORT 08-20-2004, 08:41 AM I have always had small blocks, Now I have a big block in the DartSport!! Also building a 340 stroked to a 416cu.in. I think it is going to go in my 1973 Duster for Rosie to race!!! She wants to try racing!! abodybill 09-23-2004, 06:17 PM 4 out of 5 of my cars are small blocks and i love'm but i just sold a big block dart and kinda got second thoughts about selling ???? bill 44070Swinger 11-24-2004, 11:02 AM GO BIG OR STAY AT HOME is my MOTTO :D BIG BLOCK ALL THE WAY http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid117/peca02a892d314b991972e0f66152f90c/f896c25a.jpg needsaresto 11-24-2004, 10:34 PM Stroked small block 408.Nuff said. SB412DUSTER 11-25-2004, 12:34 AM Wheres the choice for a "BIG" Small Block :scratch: I'm with you!. I voted SMALL BLOCKS :cheers: :salut: fourspeed 11-26-2004, 04:30 PM Oops. What you "prefer", I thought the question was what you have. Oh well. I have a small block, but like the big blocks much better. Lots of great design features IMO. Intake manifold has no distributor through it and no coolant, easy access to distributor, pushrods in a straight line with lifters, etc. A pleasure to work on. A little tight in an A-Body, but what can you do? As small blocks go, the Mopar is great! Love my little 340. DartMan1 01-08-2005, 11:29 PM Not running one but I know there is no replacement for displacement :cherry: abodyjoe 01-09-2005, 06:57 AM they can both be built to run but there really isn't anything like a big block a-body... EvilScamp 01-09-2005, 06:17 PM I voted big-block but i still love my 340! :D 340Dart 01-11-2005, 02:59 PM I voted small block. If you want a balanced package an A-body with a small block is the way to go. But its true. You can't beat the feeling of a big block A-body. I still love my 340. :D Käkö 01-18-2005, 07:54 AM BigBlock... This poll ain't got the chance to vote slantsix... :D fstbackfish 03-31-2005, 01:00 AM I voted small block.I'm more of a streetcar guy myself,and there's nothin like a high revvin small block on the street :thumleft: Khyron 03-31-2005, 07:11 AM real men have small blocks :D it's not the size, it's how you use it ;) <take that any way you want ;)> tweety 03-31-2005, 08:57 AM Hum what do NASCAR use??? Dart64 03-31-2005, 10:43 AM Bigblock in my 300 and Slantsix in my Dart. I ´ve vote for BB. :-k snowymountainman 03-31-2005, 12:03 PM Small block all the way...stroked 340=416cubes of asskickin power. Käkö 04-02-2005, 05:09 PM Bigblock in my 300 and Slantsix in my Dart. I ´ve vote for BB. :-k Here we go :!: Just right combos in both MoPars... :D This is just right, where you need smallblocks :?: Raising flowers :?: :D BigBlock and SlantSix, is there nothing in the middle :?: No :!: :D Äh, don't take me seriously, i'm been takin' few beers... :D Dart64 04-02-2005, 05:14 PM Bigblock in my 300 and Slantsix in my Dart. I ´ve vote for BB. :-k Here we go :!: Just right combos in both MoPars... :D This is just right, where you need smallblocks :?: Raising flowers :?: :D BigBlock and SlantSix, is there nothing in the middle :?: No :!: :D Äh, don't take me seriously, i'm been takin' few beers... :D SKOLL !!! http://www.cosgan.de/images/more/bigs/a063.gif Käkö 04-09-2005, 06:07 PM Kippis :occasion: duster340 04-10-2005, 05:51 PM skål! :drunken: duster340 04-10-2005, 05:56 PM i voted for bigblock because i Want a Hemi, i have testdriven one 426 in my life and lots of both mopar smallblocks and anny other brand to but the 426HEMI was the most V8 of them all... it made me adicted to the thought of one day be able to own one.... most people have never felt hemi power but its all you can ask for and some more.. Johnny P 05-01-2005, 10:03 PM big small block dewsky 05-01-2005, 10:14 PM This should be an entirely different poll.....should be....Small Block, Big Block, and HEMI.....The Hemi is a class all to itself and I think all of you would agree. I am building a small block car at the moment, but If I could figure a way, I'd stuff a Big Block in my 75 Scamp just to feel the HUGE amount of Torque and Pure power that they can produce. (Gawd I miss my ole Super Bee) Bob Lone Yankee 05-02-2005, 07:05 AM For someone who does not race, a SB has a lot to be said for it. Big blocks are a ton of fun but the SBs offer a bit more practical street balance. A BB will pass me on the strip but I'll pass him at the gas station. They both have their place. -LY Käkö 05-04-2005, 05:15 PM For someone who does not race, a SB has a lot to be said for it. Big blocks are a ton of fun but the SBs offer a bit more practical street balance. A BB will pass me on the strip but I'll pass him at the gas station. They both have their place. -LY BIGBLOCK all the way... Äh, actually my wife has a Valiant with a bigblock, and my car has a slantsix but... she does not want to drive my car... it has to be a BIG BLOCK for her so i had a chance to drive her car (i'm one of the builder of that car)... BIG BLOCK does have balls... it is great... i have owned over 40 small blocks but none of those hasn't be even close for comparing that big block... BIG BLOCK once again... moparracer 05-08-2005, 06:49 PM big-block THEWHITEZOMBIE 05-08-2005, 06:56 PM i hav a 318 an i love the little thing but as soon as it gives me shit or i loose to a chevy its over for the small block an my 440+6 is goin straight in the hole:supz: moparPW200guy 06-08-2005, 07:27 AM small block all the way..... the only V8s i own are all small... 273 all the way up to the 360. the only one i am missing is a 340 but that will come in time.... but IF and when the 360 blows up in my truck in a 440 4bbl will go! 67barracuda 06-08-2005, 07:39 AM I have the 318 400hp build up in it right know and planning on runner at the track once this year just to see what she will do. The real power plant, the 440, is in the machine shop right now waiting for the pistions. I plan on putting the 440 in over this next winter for the following summer, then the fun will truly begin. Longgone 07-21-2005, 02:29 AM Hmmm let me think, Hemi....273....Hemi....273. I`ll have to get back to you on that one! fastback383 07-21-2005, 04:15 AM Big block all the way. Most people have never had a big block in their A body to try. Otherwise they may just change their opinion. As far a high revving 340,s ? Ever driven a 383 or a warmed over 400. With their big piston and short stroke they rev like the small blocks, but with more cubes thrown in ! Don't get me wrong, I love those little 340's .I have had a few . But nothing is more impressive than popping the hood and seeing a big block stuffed in there. This of course is just MY opinion. And it is like a arshole , everyone has one and no 2 are exactly the same ....fastback383. http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7889/picture0167ha.jpg 73DartSport340 07-21-2005, 07:33 AM I voted SB. This is my first SB and ive had several BB B Body cars. I like the BB for a B/E Body and actually like the way they are set up(distributor where its supposed to be and easily accesable) But I like SB for a A Body. I hate having to worry about clerances buying special parts hacking appart and beating stuff(headers) int submission to try and get a BB to fit RIGHT in a A Body.......A Bodies were jusr made for a SB. And a A with a SB is MUCH easier to do work/maintainance on than one with a BB. Buschi340 07-21-2005, 05:18 PM small Block! 'cause I have only SB experience. Maybe later I think otherwise. Maybe...;) fantom 07-21-2005, 05:54 PM For the A bodys, Its got to be a small block. Otherwise its just way to crammed in there. When I get my challenger though, Im probably going to have to get a BB. :book: Longgone 07-21-2005, 07:27 PM Seriously now if you want to just go in a straight line there`s nothing better than cubic inches.On the other hand if you want a car to handle well, the small block because of it`s weight and throttle response suits the A-body and is a much better choice for the street. I guess it all depends on what you want to do with your car. I`ve had both and the smallblock always seemed to be the better street car, but having all the cubes and the distributor in the front sure is nice! MtNemoMopar 07-25-2005, 06:07 PM I had a 440 Cuda, and this little 340, would have smoked it in the quarter. But damn, that RB had some real torque to it. Nothing better than a big block for showing off to the buds. 71-440-Duster 07-25-2005, 08:50 PM Well, there's nothing like the feel of being pushed, I mean PUSHED, back into the bucket seat like a big block in a small A-Body!!! The hard part is gettin' her to hook up! ta3834bbl 07-25-2005, 10:21 PM I vote small big block. lol 383 for me, if it ever blows it will be a stroked 400 block so all existing parts will fit. Might as well sell the 2 440's in the garage! molsonx4 07-25-2005, 11:49 PM I have a 1970 Duster. It had a slant 6. I am installing BB.The only way to go. :walk: 72dustyer 07-28-2005, 08:07 PM anybody can drop a BB into a 3000 lb car and make it go like a raped ape, but it takes real work to acheive the same results with a SB. My vote is for SB roosduster 08-01-2005, 12:32 PM Small block valiantdave 08-16-2005, 06:44 PM First I did this,and had fun for about 5 years. http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/852258/1537073/18674803.jpg I now done this,I love it BIG BLOCK BABY!! http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/852258/6932619/94979545.jpg D-mailman 08-27-2005, 10:39 PM 340..best small block ever..nothing like the sound of a high strung small block on the big end..gotta love it. Terry B. freshayr 08-28-2005, 04:52 PM there is no replacment for displacment tado 08-31-2005, 03:22 AM im into small block Ghost 09-06-2005, 06:46 PM My new Barracuda is the first V-8 car I've owned, and only the 2nd one I've driven, but, I can still say I prefer small blocks. They make plenty of power for my tastes, and, the have better handling. I like handling. I prefer street cruiser to strip monsters, so handling is more useful than straight line raw power. 1972Dart 10-17-2005, 06:41 PM I'm using a small block now but have a 440 sitting in the back of the garage waiting to be built up. So when the funds get better out with the small and in with the big stuff. littleman66 10-19-2005, 06:28 PM i was thinking maybe i should put a SB in my swinger...but now all you assholes got me going agian.. i dont want a big block, i need a big block. greaserkid 10-20-2005, 11:02 PM i voted small in a-bodies, it's just way less of a pain, and way cheaper if you have tons of money burnin a hole in your pocket, big blocks are fine, but for all of us looking for biggest results from the cheaper route, smallblocks work great besides, this isn't a chevy/ford forum, mopar smallblocks can be built to kill just about anything out there, WITHOUT a blower BadAssDodge 10-21-2005, 05:21 AM I vote big block, and am gonna yank out my 360 after having it there for the last couple of years. Nothing against small blocks, I still plan on using this engine again in another car after its been stroked to a 408. but I knew that if I did the 408 for this car id still want a BB down the road. It actually costs almost the same do do BB or SB, im getting the big block 400 this weekend. :) fastback68cuda 10-25-2005, 10:10 PM this is one i've struggled with for a while now...i have a 318 that runs fine but I can't help and be drawn by the idea of a big block...just cam accross a 69 New port with a 383 and 727...the seller wants $700 for the car and says it runs great. seems like that's a really hard deal to pass on...you can't even stroke a small block for that much! danmc77 10-26-2005, 07:20 PM I voted big block. Actually, it's the only engine I've ever driven, besides a 318. But for an A-body, I like to have a high-revving SB. If it's a B body, it NEEDS to be a BB. Depends on what kind of car you're puttin' it in. If it's an E body, it could go either way. But for pure power, BB all the way. Ghost 10-30-2005, 12:18 AM this is one i've struggled with for a while now...i have a 318 that runs fine but I can't help and be drawn by the idea of a big block...just cam accross a 69 New port with a 383 and 727...the seller wants $700 for the car and says it runs great. seems like that's a really hard deal to pass on...you can't even stroke a small block for that much! Can't really stroke a 383 all that much, either. fastback68cuda 10-31-2005, 08:15 AM Can't really stroke a 383 all that much, either. sure you can! http://www.440source.com/strokerkitfaq.htm#5 http://www.rpmmachine.com/383-484-chrysler-stroker.shtml duster340 11-20-2005, 08:30 AM I voted big block. Actually, it's the only engine I've ever driven, besides a 318. But for an A-body, I like to have a high-revving SB. If it's a B body, it NEEDS to be a BB. Depends on what kind of car you're puttin' it in. If it's an E body, it could go either way. But for pure power, BB all the way. i agree on this one sure cubes are king but in a "light" abody a smallblock screaming for more at 6500+rpms will force you down in your bucket seat just as hard as a bigblock will and it is also alitle easier to work with;) 68gts340 11-25-2005, 05:50 PM the big block is where it all started, small blocks ...well they are small......i guess that says it all..... Tarr 11-30-2005, 04:47 PM It's a narrow question as ask. I love BB's but I like the drivability of the SB. Yes you can build a mild BB and drive it but SB's still get better fuel mileage over all and drive better because of better balance in the front / rear weight area. I hope I have slowed down as I grow older but a good handling SB has saved my bacon several times due to my stupidity. 7demon2 11-30-2005, 08:09 PM i haven't owned a big block mopar, but i have had alot of other big blocks. 454,460,455,396,402. just about all gm. i will say that they are all good. i do like my small block though. i just got through building my 402 in my 72 gmc truck. again it is nice but :dontknow: .....i still like the small blocks. maybe a big block mopar 1 day! mikedevore 11-30-2005, 09:20 PM i have had both big blocks & small blocks both very fast. but i prefer the small block, easy to work on, very responsive to modifications, more common than the big block stuff, they are giant killers! 68gts340 12-04-2005, 07:27 PM no contest here ....big block all the way...small blocks make a good stepping stone up to the big blocks tho.... lenweiler 12-07-2005, 07:38 AM Either way. We win. I'm in between........ a 408. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/zackweiler/Dad/1965%20Dart%20GT%20-%20Len%20Weiler/85809e4b.jpg pishta 12-07-2005, 06:51 PM Even though I can't put a big block in my 66 barracuda (without major mods) I prefer the BB. C'mon, 4 3/4 nuts, streetmasters motor mounts and a 727. 383 +HP manifolds fit without cutting anything short of the steering shaft sleeve, even in a 66 demon seed 01-27-2006, 09:03 AM Need I say more 6t8 Dart 02-09-2006, 11:56 PM Got a '72 vintage 400 in BEAUTIFUL shape...will make a nice 452 stroker motor for the Dart. Aluminum heads, intake, water pump & housing,later A/C compressor, TTi or Schumacher(aka "Dougs") headers, and that Mass Flow EFI looks very tempting (not Edelbrock). :book: mopardad1 02-11-2006, 08:01 PM Man this is a hard one. Guess for now I'll have to say small block. We currently bracket race two A-bodies. A relativley stock 75 Dodge Dart Sport,318, headers, Performer, 600 Holley and a 69 Barracuda 60 over 360, 10 to 1, single plane, double pumper. The 'Cuda is a solid 13 sec street car that's still winter fresh. We have a 68 Barracuda roller that someone has had an RB in so we are going to put our 69 440 in it and do it right. So for the time being I'll say small block, but as soon as we see track time with the RB I'll let you know. Ironically I've seen lots of big block A-bodies at the track, sure they launch hard and soune really neat we find you can go pretty fast; G/SA 73 duster in this weeks National Dragster goes 10.95 @120 mph and it's NHRA stock legal small block 340. Nuff said smythge 02-13-2006, 02:37 PM anybody can drop a BB into a 3000 lb car and make it go like a raped ape, but it takes real work to acheive the same results with a SB. My vote is for SB Let's see anybody drop a 440 in an early a-body. I just put a 440 in my 65 Dart and trust me it didn't drop, I could have however "dropped" in a built 360 but there is no replacement for displacement. To each his own. 340mopar 03-09-2006, 05:53 PM I have been a big block man my whole life. My first was a Buick 425 Nailhead then big block Chevys then back to Buick of the 455 Stage 1 variety. I went to Mopar in 1992 with big blocks and in 2002 went with my 340 because I wanted to see how well I could make a small block run. The first time I clicked off an 11.54 in my Valiant it took a week to get the smile off my face. This thing would have powdered my Stage 1's. Nothin' better than clicking off low 11's in an having someone ask you which big block you are running. I Voted Small Block! :thumblef: Jim Lusk 03-21-2006, 10:16 PM Soembody early in this thread said you couldn't autocross a big block a-body. Wanna bet? sgd128 03-21-2006, 10:29 PM BIG is always BETter Cerwin 04-13-2006, 11:06 PM 225 all the way.. i wish i had a big block but then the gas prices bite your wallet... then againi was going to put a 360 im my 67 valiant.. its still a possibility with my 66.. :thumblef: 1966 dart wagon 04-14-2006, 12:06 AM no slant six option :thumblef: i just got my first sb, i havnt been able to spread her wings yet, but both have lots of potential no replacement for displacment but sbs have alot less weight bb have alot of power to start with HEMI G T S 04-19-2006, 06:09 PM Now let me see.....What do you THINK HEMI G T S 04-19-2006, 06:21 PM I Love My Dart demon seed 04-19-2006, 07:22 PM Now let me see.....What do you THINK There is a god :notworth: valiantdave 04-19-2006, 08:19 PM I Love My Dart I love your Dart TOO!!!! duster340 05-03-2006, 01:38 PM I Love My Dart the most big block of the big blocks :notworth: :notworth: 73DartSport340 06-18-2006, 10:31 PM BB to work on in a B/C/E body..becuase all the stuff is in the RIGHT place. and its EASIER to work on. But if your talking A bodies since this IS a A body board...the SB is MADE for a A body...you would NEVER get me to say BB for a A Body ever...I don't honestly even like that the factory did it. Screws up the handeling, is NOT that much faster(stock) than a SB becuase of the exhaust restrictions,does not really fit well and makes for a maintainance PITA/Nightmare(to me), A bodies are made for SB's they just go together....but as far as working on Mopar engines in general EXCEPT in a A body my vote is BB. MoparSteve 06-22-2006, 06:55 PM There is no better feeling then the torque from a Big Block... 440duster 06-22-2006, 09:41 PM big block. 'nuff said Realest 06-24-2006, 06:20 PM gotta be a big block *drools* Duster1973 06-26-2006, 01:52 AM I have a small block and love it but you know the saying. dodgeboy413 06-26-2006, 02:55 AM Why does everyone mention a 440 or Hemi when it comes to big block Mopars?I have a worked 383 B block.Nothing like a big bore short stroke engine.Faster revs and plenty of grunt to get the job done in a 64 A body Valiant.Although a 340 in an A body takes plenty of 440's at the track due to the good balance of weight to horsepower ratio.The RB blocks are so much heavier that in some of the lighter cars withought serious frame and rear sectioning the power usually goes up in tire smoke. krabysniper 06-30-2006, 01:10 PM My wife tells me my "ENGINE" is plenty big enough. I vote small block. I don't need to compensate for a lack of :evil2: But I do enjoy playin with the big block race cars! :twisted: BoredandStroked 06-30-2006, 03:54 PM Small Block plain and simple... stroker small block to be more detailed. Sure a 440 is a great engine to work with and to make your A-Body go fast... but it takes brains and lots of work to get a small block to run fast. So when you go to those cruises and people ask you before you pop the hood... is it a big block in it? 440? 400? 383?... then you pop the hood and its a small block and peoples jaws just drop... its priceless. To the guy that said you cant autocross a big block A-body... you can... just needs extra suspension work and brains again. Haha... all the hard stuff needs brains! 440duster 06-30-2006, 04:02 PM yeah, but lots of people ask if my duster has a 318 or 340. When I tell them it has a 440 in it, the usual response involves an open mouth and bug-eyes. seen a few drool too. I need to make 8-) a "Not for Sale" sign to put on my car when the garage is open. 8-) 7172 duster 06-30-2006, 06:27 PM Dont you just love it when a 440 guy walks over to your car , and asks you what in the world is in that thing ? I have never been passed that fast before ! 414 sb.11.5 compression, 510 horse. 510 tq. 6200 rpm! street legal assphault eating 11.07 quarter @ 120.33 mph. BoredandStroked 06-30-2006, 10:20 PM Mistaking a 440 for a 318 or 340... were these people in their 80s and deaf? Oh well... some people cant hear the difference or anything. I have seen a better picture of the rear tires on your car 440duster... and dang man... thats some wide tread... how did you make it fit? 7172 duster... you are totally right hahaha. At the huge Cumberland Car Cruise that is held in Cumberland, Maryland on Labor Day and Memorial Day weekend... about 90 % of the Darts there run 440s... so I cant wait to blow their doors off. By the way... nice time there... hope you get in the 10s! Try a ram air set up if you can... I hear they can get you from 1 tenth to over 7 tenths depending! 73dart360 07-12-2006, 03:12 PM i have a complete 1969 440 with a forged steel crank, stripped it down took it to the machine shop hot tanked it ,magnafluxed it , everything was good then i met a guy he said he had a 408 forged stroker kit for $1000 it was all in the box ,i saw it and bought it so i have to go with the small block now -i will be selling the 440 strokerdart 07-13-2006, 12:30 AM adam.. i vote small block...even though i drive a 490horse 440 power d100 shortwide daily..... PDQ340 07-22-2006, 02:11 PM Judging from the poll responses (63% SB vs 37% BB), you'd think a SB almost always wins the debate. However, I don't think it's that simple. I believe there are various factors involved. If you want the absolute most go-fast power, start with the most displacement -- and then modify it from there. You'll never be able to make a SB into a 500 inch mill. If you want better handling thru the corners, a BB isn't going to work as well as a SB. In a smaller engine bay, without cutting the fenderwells, a BB is going to be a tight fit. OTOH, a stroker (or even a well thought-out stock stroke) SB will still make respectable power, and be an easy fit. When it comes to economics, most BB speed parts are only a bit more expensive than comparable SB parts, so that wouldn't seem to be much of a factor. Many of our A-bodies came w/ SB power, and I believe most of the votes are based on familiarity. For myself, since my vehicles came w/ LA340 engines (a good starting point), I continued with that. My '69 Barracuda 340-S ragged top is 99% stock, and does fine as-is... makes enough power for the street and handles reasonably well. My '68 340-S fishback is set up as a bracket racer. I could've changed to a BB but, by the time I considered that, the 340 was already too far from stock. As another post said, I've been asked if I run a 440 (11.3s @ 118mph). When I tell the person it's a 340, they're very impressed. One person even thought I was running an OD Torqueflite because I changed gears one extra time (I was running a full-synchro A833 4-speed). That made my hat-size grow! :-D Bryan 6pakattack 07-22-2006, 08:48 PM So have it your way,SLANT /6 IT IS !!!!!! :love4: BoredandStroked 07-22-2006, 10:23 PM Lol... /6 is good... lots of workt o go fast but yeah lol. Anyone ever hear of a 68 Dart GSS... not a GTS... came with a 440... dual exhaust (open headers also with a lil un covering), most with a 4 speed and 4.10 rear gears. Can you say wow? Lol... this is my main dream A-body (and car of all time) with the 68 Hemi Dart coming in second... big blocks were cool from the factory in a-bodies cause it was so new and such a rebel thing. Tarr 08-04-2006, 11:32 PM If you have deeper pockets, go with the BB. The bigger the better. If you are like me and like to get out and drive ( I'm not talking of a 30 minute drive ) then I say go with the SB. I have had a 440 and a 383 and loved both but I always had to keep a watch on the gas gauge. Yes if you love to drive you will always put the gas in the tank but it gets tiresome watching the gauge. I had a 78 Volare that I bought new and later put a 340 in with Holley 650 dp, crane 284 cam, hooker headers and a 8 3/4 rear that I swapped rears in every other week. With the 2.9 gear I got 19.5 mpg and it still ran well with the stock 340 converter. I beat many Chebby's with it like this. It was a ball to drive and I did many things I can't recommend to others including out running the Tennessee Highway Patrol two times. ( I'm older now and know better. ) If I had had a BB I would have been caught or wrecked because it would have ran out of gas or the added front weight would have prevented the good handling I had. Figure out how to get better mileage out of a BB and I'm for it. A 361 or even a 383 should get about the same mileage of a SB but they won't. Stroke is almost the same but the port size is vastly different. But I still remember the guy that had the 383 at the track that turned 8000 rpm. What a sound. duster2253speed 08-07-2006, 06:52 PM biggers always better Richie 08-15-2006, 12:10 PM Small block. Mainly because of the weight. Roger A Watts 08-15-2006, 08:10 PM stroker small block, only way to go in an a-body!! duster harry 08-15-2006, 09:57 PM Im a small block guy until i built a stroked small block. 416 cu. 575 horses, 544 lbs torque. 10.30s and still drive it on the street. Best part is i can change the plugs in less than 10 mins hot or cold. dustin440 08-16-2006, 09:35 PM i have a big block in my dart but the small block ran better????????/ duster340 11-08-2006, 06:54 PM my girlfriends says that size matters so i gues i will have to buy a bigblock ;) sixpakmopar 11-08-2006, 07:10 PM 408 stroker in a magnum block get the cubes with out the weight plus you get a roller cam setup from the factory and pass it off as a 318 Lostsheep_01 01-08-2007, 08:28 PM Goin' Smallblock for my Dart, but a BIG block for my Charger! DemonDave 02-04-2007, 11:39 PM I had a 440 in my 67 Barracuda and let me tell you it wasn't a fun engine to work on in that car. It was, on the other hand, a lot of fun when my right foot hit the floor. Still, my 71 Demon 340 was the faster car and much easier to work on (a good thing since I had to wrench on it almost daily...) so I voted small-block. 340 Dart 02-06-2007, 01:43 AM Big blocks are cool! But for me, I would rather have a stroked small block. memike 06-12-2007, 10:16 PM a small block can get it dun and stay consistent for me any why. daves66valiant 06-12-2007, 10:43 PM Small block + smaller pocketbook = less time at the pump and easier wrenching in the early A body. Dartnut 06-13-2007, 01:03 AM I've had both..... my vote is big block. For fun and max. power, no contest. For gas milage and ease of working on as well as overall price, it's small block. Just drive a big block a- body and all that goes out the window! It's all about what you can afford and your wrenching skills. Big blocks don't handle at all and it depends what you expect and want out of the car. SS/AH is the ultimate, but who can reallistically afford that? Reality is, I drive a / 6 Valiant daily, I am working on a 318 dart to cruise with, and am gathering the parts to put togher a 440 4-speed 71 Demon. Wish I could afford a Hemi! :evil4: Johnny Dart 06-28-2007, 11:07 AM :naka: :naka: :naka: :naka: :naka: :naka: :naka: :naka: :naka: :naka: mullinax95 06-29-2007, 04:52 AM Big Block! The torque these monsters put out is awesome! dartgt73 06-29-2007, 06:32 AM I've never actually go to run a small block, my Dart came with the 383 already transplanted and I LOVE it. Yea its a tight fight; sure its a pain to work on(when you have to);and it does get a bit thirsty when you put your foot in it. But the the BB doesn't have to work as hard to do the same thing the small block does. Not that I have anything against SB, I have a 340 sitting aroung that eventually I'd like to transplant into the '73 and put the 383 in the '70 when its done. But for right now this is what I've got and what I've got to know, Gotta go Big Block all the the way. 69Chrgr 06-29-2007, 09:16 AM A stroker small block for my 68 Cuda, and a 528 in my 69 Charger. They both have their place. I don't think it's worth butchering my Cuda for an ill handling street A Body. I can't really decide. However, I can say I have spanked some big block B-body asses with my small block. bOb shingler 06-30-2007, 06:35 PM big block in an a-body, well because they are so dang hard to work on. dart1973 08-05-2007, 11:36 AM no replacment for displacment. \ You know my vote. Josecuda 08-05-2007, 12:24 PM no replacment for displacment. \ You know my vote. Absolutely! 1968 Barracuda 440, lots of fun when you hammer it 340srule 08-06-2007, 06:51 PM 416 stroker smallblock,it does'nt get any better!!! and you can laugh at most big blocks.. adriver 08-16-2007, 05:13 PM my vote for an A body here. Other cars would be a different. http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=23383 Roger A Watts 09-15-2007, 05:50 PM Stoker small block! big cid and easy to install and work on. 440Ken 09-15-2007, 06:01 PM Big block is the only way to go! I put my 440 in 19 years ago and never regreted an minute of it.....except when it is time to put plugs in it, lol!!:mrgreen: FloridaFish 12-06-2007, 06:40 PM what do u have for s block avaliable mikmog@aol.com jaxle 12-10-2007, 08:02 PM try turning or stopping with a big block. redfastback 12-10-2007, 08:03 PM small block til death do i part................... plus its fun to show up the mustang/cougar dudes with 390's, and the chevy boys with 454's. or at least as best i can............. grumpuscreature 12-10-2007, 08:38 PM Having lived with all 3 at one time or another (small, big, Hemi) in an A body the choice for me is simple. Small blocks handle great and will show the taillights to most anything out there. However big blocks have an OMG gut wrenching thrust that almost makes it worthwhile to put up with not being able to turn or stop and the occasional maintenance issues. Hemis are just plain scary nasty once you hit about 4000 RPM. Open budget, ultimate dream, would be the biggest aluminum big block I could put together. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 inches with small block weight, and I would deal with the header install (only have to do it once) and plug change (that's why they make platinum plugs) headaches. I like being able to merge on the Interstate with just a twitch on the loud pedal. BTW this would go into a '66 Formula S with a transaxle in the rear with IRS and no back seat. pushrod 12-21-2007, 07:10 PM I have both a 440 '69dart and '70 340,what's not to love about both? Head snapping, tire burning, camaro eating, and the sound of solid lifters and flowmasters, only one thing better. Aquick408 12-21-2007, 08:02 PM pretty sure that it would only take one ride in my Dart with 408 sb going low 9's at 140 to change some minds in here. DusterBoy15 12-21-2007, 08:15 PM i went big block because theirs no replacement for displacement 340srule 12-22-2007, 06:48 AM pretty sure that it would only take one ride in my Dart with 408 sb going low 9's at 140 to change some minds in here. Thats what i'm talking about...big small blocks:mrgreen::mrgreen: Aquick408 12-22-2007, 07:44 AM Koeffels Place was telling me about a 500" sb that they were building. These new aftermarket blocks are amazing. That would be to cool to do up and paint chrysler blue with steel valve covers and pass off as a 318. DusterEd 12-22-2007, 08:57 AM I'll keep my 340. I like to drive my Duster in the Summer and the price of fuel with a big block would kill my pocket. But I can see if you are going racing why a 440 would work. 340srule 12-22-2007, 09:41 AM I'll keep my 340. I like to drive my Duster in the Summer and the price of fuel with a big block would kill my pocket. But I can see if you are going racing why a 440 would work. Hows that Ed??...i'm not alone with my little stroker small block here..and i've put many a 440 and the "mighty" hemi on the trailer,and that is soooo much fun i'm usually laughing at the top end. waiting for them..:mrgreen::mrgreen: daryl h 12-22-2007, 09:56 AM I like small blocks. race sprint boats an in my sport wieght is a big part of the game. 68 Rat Rod 12-22-2007, 10:19 AM I always had big blocks or a Hemi. I think that a big block is mighty fine and a Hemi would be better. But because of the ease of working on a small block, I'm going to a big cubic inch small block. A 440 small block would be great. Rob64GT 12-22-2007, 10:41 AM Big Block all the way in my 65 Valiant! I am putting a stroker 400 low deck in mine. If you want an engine that fits easily get a Slant Six! Neither sb or bb are an easy fit in an early car so why have a small block. What is going to run better a stroker 500 through Hp manifolds or a 408 through 273 manifolds. Sure you can buy TTI's for $750 and a $200 starter but a local shop will build me custom headers for $1000 at first quote. So there is no advantage there and I have enough light weight parts that its lighter that a stock V8 power steering install. I just have to weld in sub frame connectors with a big block install, I could probably get away without them if I was doing a small block. bb66cuda 01-06-2008, 02:31 AM slant six??? GermzD74 01-06-2008, 05:47 PM Well I want to drive my car as much as I can and not worry much about gas and handling, but if I ever get another mopar, a Hemi is going in my 68 dart for sure haha! and just because it goes with its a body personality =P I say it all depends how much yor gonna drive it on the street. if it will be a weekend driver and strip racer, go big block...eaither one is fine...its not like ur gonna depend on that car for economical issues. get a honda for that lol mullinax95 01-06-2008, 06:47 PM Well I want to drive my car as much as I can and not worry much about gas and handling, but if I ever get another mopar, a Hemi is going in my 68 dart for sure haha! and just because it goes with its a body personality =P I say it all depends how much yor gonna drive it on the street. if it will be a weekend driver and strip racer, go big block...eaither one is fine...its not like ur gonna depend on that car for economical issues. get a honda for that lol If you go the Hemi route keep in mind the structure of the car. You should have frame connectors welded in and also right torsion bars for a big block installed. You will need disc brakes up front to help get the car to stop with the additional weight of the motor. The rear axle should be a 8 3/4 with a axle housing brace welded on the back side. I would also buy some high quality universal joints. This is a picture of a Challenger that has a Hemi crate motor dropped in and frame connectors welded in place. The motor has caused the frame to warp even though there is frame connectors. The fellow is about to remove the motor because it is so harsh on his car. He could always back the timing off some. LOL! Mrpatel 01-06-2008, 06:49 PM Preferred:Big block auto, but still have a soft spot for a 340 4 speed! bobs340dartsport 01-06-2008, 07:21 PM I prefer a small block in an A-body, it makes a more balanced package. Big blocks and Hemis are for B-bodies, E-bodies can go either way, but I still like the 340/6 bbl cars over most big blocks available (383 and 440/4 bbl). Bob thanson_mopar 02-03-2008, 11:13 PM how do we vote for honda v-tech 1.5 litre four cyinder?:snakeman: 6dart9 02-04-2008, 12:26 AM small block cuz thats all i got now wanta68cuda 02-04-2008, 04:50 AM For a low budget minded builder it's hard to beat a small block mopar! But if your a Daddy Warbucks type of builder there's no replacement for displacement!!! And just one word can scerw up the most savy brand x-er out there and that's "HEMI" 68valiant400 02-05-2008, 01:34 AM big block if it dont fit just wiggle it butterball 02-05-2008, 08:09 PM If big is good, BIGGER IS BETTER! I've got a 500 stroker RB going in my '69 Barracuda fastback. Only because I couldn't afford a 572 Hemi.... You can make more power with less money when you go large on cubic inches, IMHO. Tougher to fit under the hood, but worth it! Size matters! turtlejr111 02-26-2008, 03:10 AM I just like beaten up on big blocks guys with a small block turtlejr111 02-26-2008, 03:17 AM hihihihihihihihihihihi 340srule 02-26-2008, 07:42 AM I just like beaten up on big blocks guys with a small block I know what your saying...lol.... turtlejr111 02-29-2008, 01:52 AM anyone can drop a big block in car, but I thank you realy have sumthag to proud of when you can beat them with a small block. Two Lane 02-29-2008, 02:23 AM Here's our answer: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=MLL%2DBPC4081CT&autoview=sku Port those Edelbrock's & ya got 500-hp & 500+-tq in a small lt-weight pkg! And the ability to run fully-effective headers w/o hacking fenderwells! And keeping mega-handling capabilities! Yup---lots of reasons to use a SBM! -- 8) superbird6bbl 02-29-2008, 06:26 AM I prefer the BB because you can get decent performance with just a cam change. A small block takes $$$ to get it up to the level of a stock BB. I do have a 318 in my 68 Barracuda vert. superbird6bbl 02-29-2008, 06:29 AM Anyone?? Some people can't even change spark plugs. sickt7cuda 02-29-2008, 01:19 PM BIG BLOCK ! 505ci with a 4.403 bore is a blast to hammer (TQ, Baby). 8 second dart 02-29-2008, 06:31 PM 605 b1 pump gas two stages dogdart65 03-04-2008, 09:50 AM big block or small block : my answer is YES 340srule 03-04-2008, 11:49 AM A small block takes $$$ to get it up to the level of a stock BB. I do have a 318 in my 68 Barracuda vert. Really...i've forgotten how many times i handed a big block owner their arse,with a "stock" 340... superbird6bbl 03-10-2008, 06:38 AM You have never came across a factory stock 440 in a 69 Super Bee. I started street racing mine in 1969 and although the 340 Darts were quick, they were no match for my car. With factory tires, air cleaner, exhaust and everything else that came from the factory, it turned an 8.80 in the 1/8th. the first weekend out. With better street tires and advancing the timing, I got it down to the high 8.20's. That was in 1969 and 1970 with the hard rubber technology. In fact, from 1969 to 1974, when I took it off the street, there wasn't a factory anything that ever touched it. There may have been faster cars, but none ever went up against me. I raced any factory car, everywhere, at any time. I raced someone almost every day until my cars reputation made it hard to find "factory" cars to race. I beat cars with headers and slicks once in awhile, if they weren't too radical. I have nothing against small blocks, but as they say, no good little man ever beat a good big man. 340srule 03-10-2008, 07:04 AM You have never came across a factory stock 440 in a 69 Super Bee. I started street racing mine in 1969 and although the 340 Darts were quick, they were no match for my car. With factory tires, air cleaner, exhaust and everything else that came from the factory, it turned an 8.80 in the 1/8th. the first weekend out. With better street tires and advancing the timing, I got it down to the high 8.20's. That was in 1969 and 1970 with the hard rubber technology. In fact, from 1969 to 1974, when I took it off the street, there wasn't a factory anything that ever touched it. There may have been faster cars, but none ever went up against me. I raced any factory car, everywhere, at any time. I raced someone almost every day until my cars reputation made it hard to find "factory" cars to race. I beat cars with headers and slicks once in awhile, if they weren't too radical. I have nothing against small blocks, but as they say, no good little man ever beat a good big man. I don't know who you were racing but obviously they were slowwww,8.80 in the 1/8th mile is 13.93 in the 1/4 mile..i can tune a 340 a body to run that in my sleep,340's were called "hemi killers" for a reason beating a 440 would'nt even be a real challenge... superbird6bbl 03-17-2008, 01:52 PM I am talking 1969 with a stock 69 1/2 440 Six Pack Bee on factory tires. I raced every 340 powered car that was silly enough to run me. I beat 428 Mustangs, on the street and the drag strip, I beat 440 4 barrel Bees and Chargers. With the dinky little tires, the 68,69 and 70 340 cars were not even a race. They could beat 383 Super Bees. If you are talking today, I know three 440 cars that are stock(not NHRA stock), that run 12.0's to 12.20's on stock Firestone G70X15's bias ply. I like the 340's, but they were 14 sec. cars when new. Mine was a 13.60 ish car new. I race a 68 440 Dart now. It would take some serious money to come close to it. It isn't that fast, but it takes cubic inches to run fast and for less money. Even your small block boys run strokers to get them to run some low numbers. 500 cubic inches is small among the go fast crowd. Moparmal 03-23-2008, 01:40 AM Really...i've forgotten how many times i handed a big block owner their arse,with a "stock" 340... Yup - like this - my little 349 handing a blown 440 his "hat" Click here to watch Hi-ho-silver---a-blower-BB-gets-blown (http://media.putfile.com/Hi-ho-silver---a-blower-BB-gets-blown) 440Ken 03-23-2008, 02:49 AM 440KEN......need I say more:cheers: Moparmal 03-23-2008, 02:54 AM It isn't that fast, but it takes cubic inches to run fast and for less money. Even your small block boys run strokers to get them to run some low numbers. Sorry "Bird" - but thats Big Block thinking - 360 J head 3600lb car N/A and NOT on the gas. Ran an 11.1- now runs a 10.8 through the mufflers - Not really "serious $$" (No stroker, No alloy heads, No roller cam) - just a good combination - Click here to watch Theo-Diamond-109-360-J-heads (http://media.putfile.com/Theo-Diamond-109-360-J-heads) 68valiant400 03-23-2008, 12:25 PM Yup - like this - my little 349 handing a blown 440 his "hat" Click here to watch Hi-ho-silver---a-blower-BB-gets-blown (http://media.putfile.com/Hi-ho-silver---a-blower-BB-gets-blown) wow street racing didn't think people still did that, street racing isn't accurate to compare cars anything can be a factor, maybe he seen a kid crossing the road and slowed down not to kill anyone, 68valiant400 03-23-2008, 12:28 PM i just love the 340 for its high reving but love big blocks too, i cant decide on it just think small and bb work better in different situations, depending on budget and skill Moparmal 03-23-2008, 08:50 PM wow street racing didn't think people still did that, Clearly you dont get out much. 68valiant400 03-23-2008, 10:13 PM Clearly you dont get out much. no sorry just not interested in killing innocent people, what if you blew a line and went squirely into the on coming traffick and took out a family?? i may be young but not stupid seen to many people get killed street racing Moparmal 03-24-2008, 04:22 AM You must be a teacher - I say this because: 1. you are assuming I care what you think 2. you are assuming you are telling me something new 3. You are assuming you are right http://www.iljboards.com/smiliesadd/mazeguy/fishing.gif 68valiant400 03-24-2008, 05:46 AM You must be a teacher - I say this because: 1. you are assuming I care what you think 2. you are assuming you are telling me something new 3. You are assuming you are right http://www.iljboards.com/smiliesadd/mazeguy/fishing.gif sorry goes something like this 1 iam only 24 and race myself but at the track 2 my best friend was killed watching a street race 3 you are assuming it will never happen to you so say what you want just be careful on the street its not always you that could get hurt, iam not trying to say your wrong or right just dont think you can compare cars based on a street race superbird6bbl 03-24-2008, 07:26 AM I apologize. We are not talking about the same thing. #1 I am talking about a stock 440, versus a stock 340 from the factory. #2. I still feel that with the same amount of money to spend, by the same person, you could make a 440 faster than a 340. I raced a 72 Duster with a 340 , a transbrake, roller cam and it was as fast as my 68 Dart. The Duster cost me a lot more money to run in the 6's. My Dart had stock 67 heads, stock crank, stock LY rods,1970 Six Pack TRW replacement pistons, no balancing, flat tappet cam and it ran high 6's also. I loved the faster revs of the 340, but it wasn't any faster. I respect your opinions, but I started racing in 1970 on the drag strip and I still haven't seen any small blocks run with the big blocks, with equal amounts of money being spent on each of them. I think that the Stock classes in NHRA are a good example of BB versus small block. I am going to quit beating this subject to death. At least we are both talking MOPARS. superbird6bbl 03-24-2008, 07:36 AM Back when I used to street race, we went out away from traffic, didn't allow spectators and usualy had to wait until close to midnight. We didn't want to tear up our cars or run over people. In the late 60's and early 70's, I raced both street and strip with the same car. Small blocks of any brand never handed the BB Mopars their "hat". Most cars that I have seen on the street with blowers, were and are for "show", not go. I KNOW, SOME will really fly. 68valiant400 03-24-2008, 07:20 PM I apologize. We are not talking about the same thing. #1 I am talking about a stock 440, versus a stock 340 from the factory. #2. I still feel that with the same amount of money to spend, by the same person, you could make a 440 faster than a 340. I raced a 72 Duster with a 340 , a transbrake, roller cam and it was as fast as my 68 Dart. The Duster cost me a lot more money to run in the 6's. My Dart had stock 67 heads, stock crank, stock LY rods,1970 Six Pack TRW replacement pistons, no balancing, flat tappet cam and it ran high 6's also. I loved the faster revs of the 340, but it wasn't any faster. I respect your opinions, but I started racing in 1970 on the drag strip and I still haven't seen any small blocks run with the big blocks, with equal amounts of money being spent on each of them. I think that the Stock classes in NHRA are a good example of BB versus small block. I am going to quit beating this subject to death. At least we are both talking MOPARS. i agree, same money, same skill, bb wins Moparmal 03-26-2008, 05:58 AM Id suggest same money, AFTER a certain point - my guess around mid 9 sec cars, the BB starts to take advantage of the extra cubes. B4 then, its cam for cam and head for head IMHO- The BB has the torque - but it has excess reciprocating mass, is inherently weaker in the big end, is heavier in total, the heads in factory state flow no better than a cast SB and in some cases a lot worse COMPARATIVELY (906 vs Magnum ). Basically to get a 440 A body running a low 13, you have to spend as much as you do on a 360 - POSSIBLY more depending on the BB heads. You need almost the same cam, same head flow, similar carb and similar gears. I agree though that this all changes when you're talking 8 sec qtrs. Was the 383 Roadrunner any quicker than the 340 Swinger? Both engines were tuned to a similar state. Moparmal 03-26-2008, 06:02 AM so say what you want just be careful on the street its not always you that could get hurt, Fair enough - unfo its also the nature of the beast - so we make calculated decisions.......and you are right - it doesnt always mean they come off. 68valiant400 03-26-2008, 12:09 PM Fair enough - unfo its also the nature of the beast - so we make calculated decisions.......and you are right - it doesnt always mean they come off. during all this agrument i forgot to mention you have a really nice looking car! cuda91 03-26-2008, 12:18 PM i would like to have big block but i prefer small block for street use cuz of gas price, i think small block more mpg than big block Moparmal 03-28-2008, 05:39 PM during all this agrument i forgot to mention you have a really nice looking car! Thanks - and sorry for jumping down your throat - :read2: - but my point is there's no point in trying to change the human "condition" - most guys drive fast cars because of the thrill - to expect them not to take a risk occasionally is "unrealistic" and something "control freaks" can never get their head around. Sure I agree that we should all be more level headed - but that assumes we're all made the same. Its not an excuse - its just humanity - its what makes us, "us". 340srule 04-06-2008, 05:20 PM Was the 383 Roadrunner any quicker than the 340 Swinger? Both engines were tuned to a similar state. Yes...340 dart/duster will eat a 383 for lunch and then come back for dinner.. res1vw21 04-06-2008, 05:25 PM aluminum head, water pump housing, and intake manifold bored and stroked 440 big block is the way to go. There is no replacement for displacement. 408 360s are nice but... 340srule 04-06-2008, 05:31 PM aluminum head, water pump housing, and intake manifold bored and stroked 440 big block is the way to go. There is no replacement for displacement. 408 360s are nice but... And what times does this stroked 440 run???... res1vw21 04-06-2008, 05:43 PM No Idea, as far as I know they guy hasn't taken it to the track, and I don't have the dyno figures.(my guess would have to be 850+ range) All I know it that it is as light as a small block and the fastest car I have ever ridden in. (its in a '70 challenger) After I rode in it I am planning on building one like it for my '70 challenger (non stroked). I do like 360's though enough so that I have one in my '77 Aspen R/T (my avatar) and am putting one in Tara's '71 Dart Swinger. superbird6bbl 04-07-2008, 06:58 AM I don't believe that your theory holds water in NHRA stock and Super Stock classes. superbird6bbl 04-07-2008, 07:04 AM Back in 1968 and 1969, 340 A bodies would beat the 383 RR and 383 Bees, but they didn't "thrash" them. They never came close to my 69 1/2 Super Bee Six Pack Bee, which I still have. I am not sure how they match up in Pure Stock, NHRA Stock classes. In NMCA Pure Stock Race, the BB's rule by a large margin. MOhorsePAR 04-19-2008, 07:50 PM I have had 318, 360, 383 & 440 and for right now I prefer the small block. Easy to work on and fairly inexpensive to make it run fast at the track, yet a lighter more nimble package for the street than a big block. It could be I favor them because it's what I have right now too. O:) Steve / MOhorsePAR 408demon 04-19-2008, 09:27 PM i chose small blocks, most of the time their cheaper they already fit in your car with out modifications and you can always make smallblocks just as big as big blocks sometimes and just as powerful!!!! kocuda 04-23-2008, 12:45 PM Big block for sure. The only subsitute of cubic inches is cubic dollars!!!! DartSport340 04-23-2008, 12:49 PM Which do you prefer ? overall a BB, easier to work on. In ANY A Body a SB thats whats SUPPOSED to be there and what the engine bay was actually made for. id NEVER own a A Body with a BB..if i got given one first thing id do is take OUT the BB sell it and drop in a stout SB. Ive seen had friends with and had one myself and maintenance on a BB A Body BLOWS! and please dont try to tell me it doesnt..its a pita even changing the plugs in a BB a body let alone headers or starters etc,etc,etc...A bodies-SB anything else =BB DartSport340 04-23-2008, 12:51 PM Yes...340 dart/duster will eat a 383 for lunch and then come back for dinner.. true statement, ask me how i know lol....i was in the BB :) RoadRunner 383 68valiant400 04-27-2008, 07:54 AM only way to settle this is to find out who owns the fastest small block on fabo and someone with a badass big block! lets line them up at a track no restrictions on power options just must have either started out as a small or big block that was availible from the dealer:burnout::burnout: lol just jokes but it would be fun superbird6bbl 04-28-2008, 06:41 AM I have to disagree with statement, regarding my car only. I have it set up to remove the starter, if I ever have to, without touching the headers. I also can remove the headers with the car on a trailer. I pulled my Hemi out of the Dart and dropped a 440 back in. I have lots of room. I can even get to all of the top transmission bolts from the top. Sound backyard engineering did it. My modifications are only practical for drag racing, not the street, unless Pro Street is your thing. 1hry440duster 05-22-2008, 03:16 AM to make the power and the torque of a big block with a sm block you better have a fat wallet.you can do a big block for a lot less and go faster then a sm block thats just my 2 cents cudaspaz 05-22-2008, 01:46 PM Big Block. Just drop the hammer in a 440 powered Dart one time and you'll be convinced. Small blocks are awesome in a bodies, but the first time my buddy took me for a 1/4 jaunt to the gas station up the street in his 67 post dart 440/727, tubbed, street slicks, it launched, lifted, I saw sky-then street and was pinned to the seat. Yeah, I liked it. Hey that's a good phrase...."I saw sky, then street, and was pinned to the seat." I'll have to add that to the mopar song I'm working on. 1969GTS 05-24-2008, 09:04 AM I've had both, a 1969 six pac super bee I sold for $3500 when I was a kid (still makes me cry). I've also had a 340 dart singer, 340 duster and a 340 Dart GTS. I love the 340 Dart but miss the super bee still. For now.....I'm sticking with the 340............ it sounds sweet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjVmPDfzY3Q Jack Armstrong 05-24-2008, 05:31 PM For the very best of both worlds, with the least hassles & most gain, go with a biiiiiiiggggggggggggggg small-block!! --------------------------------------------- Here's one fine example!! -- 8) http://www.hughesengines.com/general/techArticleDetail.asp?articleID=1000062 Burntorange70 05-24-2008, 05:36 PM I would want a 440 stroker small block over a 440 big block in my Dart. rsherw3 05-24-2008, 06:15 PM as previously stated there is no replacement for displacement! Thank you. limelite70 05-24-2008, 06:23 PM small blocks ,because there cheaper to build and more fun to drive. plus they suck lesss gas. MoParMetal 05-27-2008, 11:47 PM I would love to put a pissed off stroked small block in the Duster and make the sucker handle like its on rails, but my wife wanted a 383. So a street machine it is. gotta keep her happy or god knows what will happen. superbird6bbl 06-02-2008, 08:04 AM My friend's stroked 440 Duster ran a best of 8.86 at 161 mph. before he sold it. My stock stroke, .030 flat top TRW pistons, stock crank, stock rods and 1967 steel heads, Torker intake, 850 Holley, all steel 68 Dart, including floors and it ran 6.90's to 7.0's. 69Chrgr 06-02-2008, 06:21 PM There is a video of a Duster in the racing forum that run's 5.59 in the 1/8th. I don't see many big blocks doing that. Oh, and I have a 69 Hemi Charger also. However, it's not finished, so I'm pretty biased with the 408 in my 68 Cuda. I handed all of the Big Blocks there asses here in Ennis at the Mopar Nats in my class, (foot brake)then broke out. Also, it's pretty nice to be able to turn left and right with a small block in an A-body. I even see it with the Ford and Chevy's as well, small blocks kicking big block ass. Some folks think just because it's a big block it's got to be blindingly fast. Just my .02. mopar3762 06-07-2008, 12:17 PM to put the speed between both big and small blocks in perspectives ,its still the by mopar hemi design taking the money in top fuel,mountain motors, yes, but still a bigblock. fishman 06-22-2008, 06:08 PM As long as its a mopar its allright with me. My friend runs a 439 cid smallblock that Ray Barton built. I was ther when it was run on the dyno. it put out 850 hp. He has done more to it since then. He runs super gas in NHRA with it in a 93 Daytona mrtires24 06-24-2008, 11:58 PM I don't think it really matters. It all depends on what you are wanting out of the car. I have never driven a built small block, I grew up with a 360, and I have had a handfull of 318's and /6's. Now that I am done my 440 duster, I am really happy. It is by far the most powerfull car I have ever owned. But now I am thinking of building my 340 dart to see what it can do. I have seen some big block darts get beat by well built 340's. So it will be interesting to see. But for now...I am happy with my summer driver, and its a 440, so this year, I will vote Big block. Kinda has a coolness factor. I have been to one car show and saw tones of 318's and 340's, and 360's and 273's and /6's, but I didn't see one big block. Every car show that I have brought my car to in the past, my car has just been walked passed ( 340 ) but with my big block duster, I had people even laying on the ground looking under it, and people coming up asking who owns this car, and asking this and that. Definatly gets more attention. helps that its a 4 spd too :burnout: Phil superbird6bbl 06-26-2008, 09:33 AM I don't think that all big blocks are fast. In addition, a lot of so called small blocks are as big as my big block. I have ran a 440 .030 over with stock replacement piston, stock rods and crank and a hydraulic cam, "J" converter and a 4.88 geared dana and I haven't had any small blocks with the same type of parts ever beat me. I started racing in 1970 and I have street raced and was even racing a three different drag strips weekly. I have made it to the Final 4 at the Mopar Nationals at Indianapolis and I have been the Pro track representative in The Race Of Champions at Indy for Div. 3 for 5 or 6 years running in the late 80's to 1993. All of this won't buy me a cup of coffe, but I have and I am now active in NHRA Bracket racing in the footbrake Pro ET class. I won the last race of the year and broke out in the final of King of the Hill. In NHRA class racing, small blocks don't compete against big blocks. In the fastest 50 Muscle cars, small blocks are not at the top. I am impressed with your times, but those times are not common around here for small blocks. My basically stock big block will run high 6's in the 1/8th. and small blocks with the same parts run in the high 7's and on up. I know that this matter will never be settled and some 4 cyl. cars will argue that their tuners will blow away most small and big blocks. If you have the money, you can make a lawnmower run. superbird6bbl 06-26-2008, 09:40 AM That is a BIG "small block". My big block is a 447. It doesn't have anywhere near the HP of that small block. Impressive power. superbird6bbl 06-26-2008, 09:52 AM Sounds like a nice ride. Small blocks are ho-hum in a sea of small blocks, to some people. I like muscle cars and have respect for what they are. In the muscle car world that restores them to stock, big blocks generally rule the 1/4 mile when the owner's dare to run them hard. I know two Six Pack Super Bee owner's who are knocking on the door of 11.99 with their cars in Pure Stock Muscle Car. and a stock 427 Vette has been torn down and Certified and it is in the 11's. Popdart 06-26-2008, 11:46 AM I voted medium block . . . I have a 383 . . . . . . 74 dustaar 06-27-2008, 07:44 AM Small block because it uses less GAS LOL superbird6bbl 06-30-2008, 04:15 PM 383's are fine engines also, IMHO. superbird6bbl 06-30-2008, 04:16 PM You have got that right. In fact, I am driving a 98 Neon R/T most of the time. The 68 318 goes out less than it used to. Popdart 06-30-2008, 06:54 PM 383's are fine engines also, IMHO. Why thanks 383's are just little brothers of 440's . . . . superbird6bbl 07-07-2008, 07:38 AM I have a 69 RR that came with a 383 4 spd. I will probably go back with that combo. bthieson 07-23-2008, 12:06 PM I love when people say "there's no replacement for displacement"..it's called forced induction. superbird6bbl 07-28-2008, 01:50 PM Forced induction isn't allowed on Big Blocks?? bthieson 07-28-2008, 02:51 PM I never said that, but forced induction is a replacement for getting more cubes. alleyoopmgv 07-28-2008, 04:25 PM big block mrtires24 08-04-2008, 02:44 PM I have to say Big block for sure. I have never had a faster car! I might be stiring up the pot, but I wonder how many people on here that vote small block have never owned or driven a big block. If I did this poll last year I would have voted Small block, because that is all I have ever owned. and because there are WAY MORE small blocks out there than Big blocks, it only makes sence that small blocks would be winning at this point. So, I know that there should be some people out there....I want to know... WHO VOTED for SMALL BLOCK, and has owned, and driven a big block? I doubt there are many. But there will be some. Phil Big Block's rule. definatly a coolness factor that you Can't get with a small block. HEMI G T S 08-04-2008, 04:51 PM REALLY ..... And my spark plugs are easy to get to ..... smiles superbird6bbl 08-05-2008, 01:56 PM If one could afford it, forced induction on a big block could make it a BIG block. superbird6bbl 08-05-2008, 02:01 PM Now that is a BIG BLOCK. I have one of those on an engine stand (without the forced induction). Nice looking alternative to a small block. mrtires24 08-07-2008, 01:28 PM I have to say Big block for sure. I have never had a faster car! I might be stiring up the pot, but I wonder how many people on here that vote small block have never owned or driven a big block. If I did this poll last year I would have voted Small block, because that is all I have ever owned. and because there are WAY MORE small blocks out there than Big blocks, it only makes sence that small blocks would be winning at this point. So, I know that there should be some people out there....I want to know... WHO VOTED for SMALL BLOCK, and has owned, and driven a big block? I doubt there are many. But there will be some. Phil Big Block's rule. definatly a coolness factor that you Can't get with a small block. Either this got over looked...( being the last post on the previouse page) Or no small block people have any comments. Don't get me wrong, I own one big block car, and two small block cars, and i love them all...Its just now that I have the big block up and running...its in a class of its own. ( it doesn't just get walked past at the car shows...people are crawling over it...and asking questions. Don't get that with too many small blocks in my experience) Phil pharmboy 08-08-2008, 12:46 PM I've never been around many small blocks that made me think an earthquake was going on...=P~ mean318 08-19-2008, 08:45 AM I voted Small block. It just feels better when my 318/904 beats a 67 belvedere 383/ 4 speed at the track!8) mrtires24 08-19-2008, 01:04 PM I voted Small block. It just feels better when my 318/904 beats a 67 belvedere 383/ 4 speed at the track!8) Your raceing a car that is quite a bit heavier than yours. This is an A body site try racing a BB A body:) Your also racing a standard, and yours is an auto...he must suck at shifting. Phil PS, if your small block is soo good, Why do you want it to grow up and be a BB?????!!!!!!????? mean318 08-20-2008, 03:37 PM Very true on the weight and all. But it still makes me feel good. mrtires24 08-20-2008, 03:52 PM Very true on the weight and all. But it still makes me feel good. True on that.. Guess it doesn't matter what you win against..a win is a win! Badawg 09-16-2008, 07:31 PM The day I bought my 66 Barracuda I also picked up a 340 and started rebuilding it (eventhough I knew it would be atleast a month b4 the car got here) 3 days after the car got here I came across a GREAT deal on a 440 and sold the 340 without it even sniffing the engine bay. I would never knock a small block, but nothing beats a big block. | |||
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