DJVCUDA 03-22-2006, 08:24 AM Heres are some pix I just got from abodyjoe...
http://www.abodyjoe.com/pictures/early%20abody%20tti/tti%20earl%20a%201.jpg
http://www.abodyjoe.com/pictures/early%20abody%20tti/tti%20early%20a%202.jpg
http://www.abodyjoe.com/pictures/early%20abody%20tti/tti%20early%20a%203.jpg
and directions!!!
http://www.abodyjoe.com/pictures/early%20abody%20tti/2493394-II-TTI636A.doc
OldVart 03-22-2006, 08:46 AM Wow, that's a tight fit! Thanks to you and Joe for the photos and installlation instructions. :)
cavemanmoron 03-22-2006, 09:08 AM does the parking brake cable make noise from being under the one
exhaust pipe?
7. Remove the Torsion Bar. The torsion bar will pass thru the header when re-installed. ( REFER TO THE SHOP MANUAL FOR THE PROPER PROCEDURE ) :wack:
abodyjoe 03-22-2006, 03:39 PM i got those pictures from another site.. they are suposed to be straight from tti.. they are tight looking but they are on there...lol
cavemanmoron 03-22-2006, 03:46 PM Moparmecca has them for around $750.
I wonder how much horsepower over the stock 273 manifolds they are
going to make?I already have a good dual 2.25" system,
using the stock manifolds.
They sure look nice, :thumblef:
but, it will be a long time, before I can spend that
kind of money for 15-25 horsepower.
abodyjoe 03-22-2006, 03:52 PM "I wonder how much horsepower over the stock 273 manifolds they are
going to make?I"
alot more... i know djvcuda went from 340 manifolds to a set of spitfires and the difference was night and day.. i can only imagine what a full length 3" collector headder will do over a small 273 manifold...
whitey 03-22-2006, 05:14 PM I have a 72 Swinger...the torsion bar goes through the header?????????
cavemanmoron 03-22-2006, 05:19 PM I have a 72 Swinger...the torsion bar goes through the header?????????
The headers in this thread are 1963-1966 Abody.
These just came out, it has been tough getting headers for the
EARLY A bodies.
TTI has different one for 67-newer ;).
cavemanmoron 03-23-2006, 06:00 AM "I wonder how much horsepower over the stock 273 manifolds they are
going to make?I"
alot more... i know djvcuda went from 340 manifolds to a set of spitfires and the difference was night and day.. i can only imagine what a full length 3" collector headder will do over a small 273 manifold...
:thumblef:
Good Point!!
Hmm; with a 3 inch collector, that is going to help a Lot,
on any higher horsepower/ larger CID engines. :)
On my mild 318/ 4bbl .430/.450 cammed engine it will not help as much
as someone with a 360, and a .480 + lift cam. :)
mikedevore 03-23-2006, 10:21 PM i have to be honest, i have always stayed away from early a-bodies. it was from the lack of a good under chassis headers. i wish now that i hadn't sold that one owner 1965 Dart GT! you gotta give it up for TTI
Dodgenut64 03-24-2006, 10:52 AM more great news. for alterktion ouners in there early A bodies who are using the new hemi bill has modified a set of tti headers and has sent them back to tti to produce. without a steering box you have more room on the driverside of the car. bill said itll be a few months before tti gets them rolling. as time passes used hemis will get cheaper and more guys can use them in swaps. Hot Rod had a great artical on caming the 5.7 a few months back. just by raising the rev limiter the 5.7 with tti headers got 401 hp at 6100rpm. then they took comp cams biggest cam for the new hemis and got 480 hp. im sure the 6.1 could get over 500 hp easy.
Bearhawke 03-26-2006, 06:46 AM more great news. for alterktion ouners in there early A bodies who are using the new hemi bill has modified a set of tti headers and has sent them back to tti to produce. without a steering box you have more room on the driverside of the car. bill said itll be a few months before tti gets them rolling. as time passes used hemis will get cheaper and more guys can use them in swaps. Hot Rod had a great artical on caming the 5.7 a few months back. just by raising the rev limiter the 5.7 with tti headers got 401 hp at 6100rpm. then they took comp cams biggest cam for the new hemis and got 480 hp. im sure the 6.1 could get over 500 hp easy.
For the record: the 340 horsepower rating (5.7L) and 425 HP numbers (6.1L) are net figures..........the gross/brakeHP specs are probably more like 400 for the smaller Hemi and 500+ for the 6.1L SRT-8 mill. :drinkers:
Roberson_Tech 03-27-2006, 01:51 AM great pic on the TTI systems, and whats this talk about a new hemi in our early a bodys?
demon seed 03-27-2006, 09:50 AM Nice headers. i wish I could run them on my 383 Demon but TTI says they won't fit with my power steering so Schumacher instead. :sad2:
Roberson_Tech 03-27-2006, 07:07 PM for alterktion ouners in there early A bodies who are using the new hemi .
What? Is alterktion a new type of k frame set up or a new word?
66dartman 03-27-2006, 07:21 PM Just got back from Mopars at the strip show and they had the headers and the system on display. Nice headers, 1-5/8 step to 1-3/4 and 3" system. Headers are not in pieces like the Dougs so installation will be more difficult but the people and the craftsmanship at tti are first rate. I will buy the 3" system from them.
OldVart 03-27-2006, 08:42 PM Wild1, it's kinda' both. Bill Reilly over at Bigblockdart.com builds and sells them. Have a look-see. :)
Keith Mopar 03-27-2006, 08:50 PM I called TTI on Tues. Mar 21 (951-371-4878), as my TTI distributor here in Canada told me they haven’t released the early A Body header yet. They told me they are not actually selling them yet as they are trying to develop a special starter to work with these headers. Even the mini starter doesn’t work. I know someone on here said they ordered some! So I guess I'll have to wait. :)
Any one else heard this.
Roberson_Tech 03-28-2006, 04:44 AM Wild1, it's kinda' both. Bill Reilly over at Bigblockdart.com builds and sells them. Have a look-see. :)
It was a short break but I looked and did not see anything about alterktion ouners I am still lost. do you have a link to stear me in the correct direction
cavemanmoron 03-28-2006, 05:03 AM What? Is alterktion a new type of k frame set up or a new word?
http://www.reillymotorsports.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=db5f3229dccb541b4d63e52f3070c6 1b&board=3.0
66dartgt 03-28-2006, 10:43 PM Wow !! those are cool headers. Now I wished I hadnt bought the Laysons shorties I've already got. But on the other hand, the TTI headers sure look like a pain to install.
Oh well, looking at the bright side, I wont have to wrangle with a tough install with the shorties. I'm not out to set the world on fire either - anything's got to be better than the OEM cast iron pieces.
66dartman 03-29-2006, 07:05 AM I called TTI on Tues. Mar 21 (951-371-4878), as my TTI distributor here in Canada told me they haven’t released the early A Body header yet. They told me they are not actually selling them yet as they are trying to develop a special starter to work with these headers. Even the mini starter doesn’t work. I know someone on here said they ordered some! So I guess I'll have to wait. :)
Any one else heard this.
They had a powermaster mini starter on the small block in the display and it fit. They were recommending the powermaster mini starter.
abodyjoe 03-29-2006, 07:52 AM It was a short break but I looked and did not see anything about alterktion ouners I am still lost. do you have a link to stear me in the correct direction
here ya go.. https://www.reillymotorsports.com/store/home.php?cat=255
its a whole kit that gives you rack & pinion steering,saves about 80lbs, gets rid of the torsion bars and has quite a few brake options.... it is a bad ass set up... pretty much the best on the market....
Keith Mopar 03-29-2006, 07:12 PM They had a powermaster mini starter on the small block in the display and it fit. They were recommending the powermaster mini starter.
Thanks 66dartman :thumblef:
64ragtop 04-01-2006, 04:46 PM So, I wonder if Harold's phone is ringing????
daves66valiant 04-02-2006, 10:24 PM kick ass
6T9 GTS 04-13-2006, 12:43 AM Wow !! those are cool headers. Now I wished I hadnt bought the Laysons shorties I've already got. But on the other hand, the TTI headers sure look like a pain to install.
My TTI's weren't to hard to install. In the instructions that come with the headers, there are some measurements that you have to take from the inner fender to the center of the crank to make sure the engine is in a certain possition and the headers will slide right in. The trick is having the car high enough off the ground to tilt the headers up enough. Found this out taking them out again to pull the mill to build the 416.
Another nice thing about the tti's is there ceramic coating with the thermal barrier on the inside. I'm SO glad I spent the extra money and got this. The advantage of this over stock manifolds is night and day. After running on average of 250+ miles at speeds averaging in the 90 mph range (that's around 4000 rpm sustained in my car), I could hold onto the headers 10 minutes after I shut it off. The valve covers were hotter than the headers!! Plus as you can see in my signiture, there is no ground clearence issues with these headers.:thumbup:
64ragtop 04-13-2006, 11:44 PM 6t9GTS,
Congrats on the easy install. I'm still left wondering about the process on the _early_ A-Body cars like my '64ragtop. You had something over an inch more room on both sides, compared to the '63 - 66 cars. The instructions that A-Body Joe posted at the top of the thread call for pulling the torsion bars on the early cars, then "threading the needle" to get the t-bars back through the headers. They also call for dropping the steering center link. That really shouldn't be too tough on a hoist. Probably somewhat trickier on jack stands in my driveway, though that's what the instructions call for.
abodyjoe 04-14-2006, 07:32 AM 6t9GTS,
Congrats on the easy install. I'm still left wondering about the process on the _early_ A-Body cars like my '64ragtop. You had something over an inch more room on both sides, compared to the '63 - 66 cars. The instructions that A-Body Joe posted at the top of the thread call for pulling the torsion bars on the early cars, then "threading the needle" to get the t-bars back through the headers. They also call for dropping the steering center link. That really shouldn't be too tough on a hoist. Probably somewhat trickier on jack stands in my driveway, though that's what the instructions call for.
i've also heard something about problems with starters... not sure if you just need a mini starter or something smaller...
lilcuda 04-15-2006, 11:45 AM i've also heard something about problems with starters... not sure if you just need a mini starter or something smaller...
I'm new here, but I'll put in my 2 cents. I spoke to TTI at Spring Fling last weekend. They gave me an information sheet on these headers. It states that the Mopar mini starter fits only with the 10" flywheel. If you have a 10.5" flywheel or an automatic, you must use the Powermaster starter which is still under development.
I asked them if the headers will fit with a Keisler hydraulic clutch actuator and I got the deer-in-the-headlights look. They weren't really familiar with it. I'm hoping to find someone who has installed the headers that will take photos of the clutch pushrod/z-bar area so I can try to determine if it will fit.
Another thing TTI told me is that they expect the headers to be available in June.
Lee
1966 Barracuda 340 4 speed
lilcuda 04-18-2006, 06:15 PM Here are some pictures I got from TTI showing the top view of the headers as they were being built.
Lee
doctorpimp 10-06-2006, 08:16 AM Have these headers actually been released?
I wonder how they fit on a 360 with Eddy heads?
abodyjoe 10-06-2006, 10:04 AM Have these headers actually been released?
I wonder how they fit on a 360 with Eddy heads?
yes they have been released.. you need a special starter also...
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