Ok so lets really talk K-members here Folks

a business needs a profit to stay in business. i agree that stupid amounts of profit and being greedy is just stupid. i can't speak for all the systems out there but if you really look into the alter-k and everything you get it is actually one of the better priced systems on the market. can ya build one at home cheaper? maybe maybe not. if ya have one there to copy it exactly i'm sure you can. but if your gonna start from scratch and constantly improve it over the years i doubt it.. you still need supplies, to pay for electric, and what is your time worth? i know my time is worth more then $5 an hour. then if your gonna mass produce them your gonna need some help. what are ya going to pay those guys? i know i want top of the line guys welding front end parts together. i sure don't want some jack *** that is just learning to weld helping me. you gonna supply benefits to those employees? the good employees sure aren't sticking around for crap pay and no benefits. and what supplies do you need? welding machines? welding wire? lights and electric for the shop? heat for the shop? grinders, drills, material... etc..etc..etc... it all adds up man. companys can't build something and sell it for a $5 profit. just doesn't work that way.