thanks for the quick replies guys. the 383 727 combo i put in was from a 1970 roadrunner, so the bracket from the dipstick tube to the bellhousing was the only bolt retaining it, i was used to the older ones with the bolt at the base so it was the first thing i had checked. so i followed your advise and cut a short piece of wood 1x2 and gave it a whack, that did it, now i don't have to sell the car. (that was the threat that i used when i was originally cursing the car out) thanks again guys!
