Interior Paint, Gloss or Semi-Gloss

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Car is a 1968 Barracuda fastback. What is the correct finish on the metal interior piece? Like the steering column, dash, doors above the door panel, metal pieces around rear window, etc.
 
The steering column and dash use the same crinkle type paint. The upper doors and interior are semi to cut down on glare in the cab.
 
So from the link that was provided:

Satin Black 9324 is a flat black
Jewel Black 9028 is a semi-gloss
Raven Black 9000 is a gloss finish

Satin Black (ditzler code 9324) Used on:
-Instrument Panel
-Ash Receiver
-Defogger Bezels (rear shelf)
-Glove Box Door
-Steering Column and Components.

Jewel Black (ditzler code 9028) Used on:
-Roof Rails
-Backlite Mouldings (I'm not sure what that is exactly)
-"A" Pillar Cover
-Console
-Manual Seat Adjuster

Raven Black (ditzler code 9000) Used on: (i'm not sure what these pieces are exactly)
-Quarter Panel Upper
-Garnish
-Quarter garnish extension
-Lock Pillar upper

Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere.
 
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The 3 gold trim pieces go around the rear window. The black and blue pieces go between the rear seat and side panel on each side. I'm guessing semi-gloss finish for these?
Can anyone explain what the garnish and quarter garnish extensions, and lock pillar upper are? Those pieces are supposed to have a gloss finish but I can't think of what pieces they would be.

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These are 69 B5 or 338 brite blue.

Have you pulled the codes from the FSM for your interior?

I used mixes based on the FSM old ditzler # ordered from TCP Global.

Suede can be tricky. Mix is important but a tad more air can help and the reducer per temp makes a big difference. I am no paint specialist but Remember what you are looking at is nearly 50 years old.

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Dash finish is the hardest IMO. The suede can be tricky.

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Here is a 69 survivor that has held up well. The pics don't show it all but the interior trim (upper door fame and all garnish) are gloss. Just the dash frame and associated trim + column pieces are suede. 68 models are the same only the mix code may be different.

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The codes in the 69 FSM are at the end of the body section.

Not sure if I have a 68 FSM but I will check.
 
downloaded the 68 manual and don't see them, Here are 69 codes that should help.
 

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What they put on the door tops, a-pillar trims, roof rail trims, etc.. wasn't a super high gloss. Its about medium glossy, matching the vinyl on seats and doors when it was new. A very high gloss on that would require armorall or the like. Anyway... My mistake was using a very high gloss black appliance epoxy on the door tops, etc... It don't look right and every fingerprint shows.
Honestly, I don't recall that the polyester pigment enamels used on the exteriors back in the day was as glossy as what we can buy now. The chrome trim is what gave new cars their appeal.
So the same mix they sprayed on the outside might have carried on to the inside.
 
Alright so the original gloss back then was probably somewhere between today's gloss and Semi-Gloss paints?

The suede finish isn't just a smooth flat color, it has a texture to it?

Eastwood has a black textured powder coat it isn't as rough as black wrinkle paint. I wonder how close that would be to the suede finish. Take a look at the picture of the diamond plate, is that to rough for the factory swede finish?

Hotcoat Powder Black Texture

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Alright so the original gloss back then was probably somewhere between today's gloss and Semi-Gloss paints?

The suede finish isn't just a smooth flat color, it has a texture to it?

Eastwood has a black textured powder coat it isn't as rough as black wrinkle paint. I wonder how close that would be to the suede finish. Take a look at the picture of the diamond plate, is that to rough for the factory swede finish?

Hotcoat Powder Black Texture
Powder coat finishes on lots of items that matches the suede finish/texture perfectly. The tubing under my old computer desk is a good example.
I have to assume those products were sprayed and oven cured. I don't know about DIY products that achieve the same. No experience with those. I wasn't so particular. I used SEMs Landau Black and dry sprayed the final coat to get a similar texture/finish. The positive is the column, column door, dash vents, all match perfectly.
 
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JGC, that powder you're looking at is going to be the wrong texture for a dash altogether. As Bennie / RedFish mentioned, check other suppliers for a "leatherette" powder. Any wrinkle, vein or river will not be what you're trying to achieve (and going through Eastwood is not in your best interests either). You didn't really say what color you're looking for but here's a starting point.
IRONSTONE COPPER Powder Coat P-3136B | Prismatic Powders
 
My interior will be black. Ok, I see the difference. That copper color powder in the link you provided the grain isn't that uniform and looks like leather, the Eastwood textured powder is very uniform. The Eastwood powder coats aren't any good?
 
Exactly -- you want it to look like suede or leather instead of an air cleaner lid. << grin >>
Eastwood is a specialty restoration company that in my opinion tries to be all things to all motorheads. Keep in mind that most if not everything they sell can be found elsewhere from its original manufacturer at a 30-50% discount over what they charge. Simply put, they stick their own label on it, mark it up to the moon, and it's even rumored in the industry that a lot of their powders are recycled crap from overseas. I've used it myself ... and you'll note the link I shared above is NOT from Eastwood. I am not a fan.
 
Here is what I did on my dash and steering column. I used lacquer paint sprayed on a bit dry. It looks pretty good. I think you can find that textured paint specifically for the dash, but it probably isn't cheap.
 
My interior will be black. Ok, I see the difference. That copper color powder in the link you provided the grain isn't that uniform and looks like leather, the Eastwood textured powder is very uniform. The Eastwood powder coats aren't any good?
For what its worth... black is the easiest interior color to repair or clone. Some of the other colors are a real pain. Not only the texture but the shade also varies. My metallic red for example,,, the dash, the vinyl, the carpet, = 3 different shades of red.
SEMs Landau Black can be sprayed on every "orgin" in the guts.
If you want to buy special suede finish paint, its out there... » Products Instrument Specialties
I haven't used what is offered on that page.
 
Wow only $99 for a pint. It sure ain't cheap.
Yep, If you're restoring a e-body to be worth 50K plus... Not to say there aren't some a-bodies that are worthy.
 
I don't know what years are covered, but when I painted my '64 Valiant, the old PPG color chart my auto paint store had in their history books listed interior colors on the back of the chart. It gave the location, code and texture, and everything they mixed was a perfect match.
 
TCP global was reasonable and mixes the suede brew.
 
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