Missed on this combo?
Wow. Never did I say I wanted 600HP. All I wanted is to get the most out of the engine that I could. I went to the dyno and didn't really worry about 560 horsepower.........my issue was I wanted more torque to go along with that 560 horsepower.
Also, Tom IS a nice guy. When I handed him my heads I told him I'm pretty sure they're junk and needed to know for sure. I need good solid info. He checked em over and told me they'll make a lot more power than my dyno sheets show. All I need is the right cam. He NEVER said they were the best thing since sliced bread. He said they're fine to run.
Now someone mentioned Shady Dells flow numbers...........there's a reason his operation is called SHADY dell. I'd never say that without firsthand knowledge either.
Right now they are the heads I have. I'm gonna get them to work. I'm not throwing them in the garbage can yet. Yeah they were free, but I paid for the CNC work.
I guess if they never totally work out, I'll just have to keep the 540 HP slug that's in the car now, and have a spare shortblock instead of a spare engine.
Ya know this thread went a long way as a "let's help this guy out" before it turned to a "let's bash his ****". I was really enjoying it and learning some new things.
Kinda disappointed now.....
You say you never said you wanted 600 hp. But just the most out of it. Well with that cam and the heads that hughes advertises, that's 600 horse. If you're happy with 560. That's fine. Just don't say "you wanted the most out of it" when you really mean "I'll settle for what it does".
Tom is a nice guy. I don't see anyone saying he isn't. They will make more power than you have. And nobody said they should be the best thing since sliced bread. All I've said. Is they don't flow NEAR what hughes claims. And yes. They are fine to run.
I mentioned shady dells numbers. Whatever problems you have heard of them. I've always heard excellent things about them. That aside. The numbers I posted are very common ported J head numbers. I can get very similar results from half a dozen different sources. I just used shady cause it's right on their website. If you'd rather I can post numbers from somewhere else showing that your heads only flow close to ported J heads up to .500 lift. My point with this was that there obviously is still work that can be done. Specifically on the port. The SS. And spots other's have mentioned. And once again to show that your numbers are nowhere near what hughes advertised.
Nobody is saying throw out your heads. Stop overreacting. We are just trying to help you out. And yes. You paid for CNC work that doesn't do NEAR what they claim. Personally I like to get what I paid for. If you're happy. That's fine. Just don't get upset when we point out that part of the problems you've come on here to ask for help with, come from the heads.
And nobody said the engine is a slug. Except maybe you. You came on here to ask what was missing in your combo. We are trying to help you with that.
Nobody is bashing your ****. You asked if it was a missed combo. And a lot of guys, including some pro engine builders, have taken time out of their day to help. For free I might add. To try and find out what is going on and why. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean we are bashing your setup. You wanted our help to get the most out of it. And we are. If you don't like the answer. Then I guess don't ask the question?
If you want the knowledge and experience. It's here on the board. There's a ton of very helpful people here. Just don't take it so personal and overreact.
And we still haven't seen any cranking compression numbers. Or CC'd chambers. I honestly think your compression is another small part of the larger problem. The more you give us the more we can help.
