A Droning story

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AlV

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Greetings FABO, When I was building my Dart I decided to buy the TTI 2.5" system with Dynomax Super Turbo chambered units and pair them up with my warmed up 340 with Stock HP manifolds. I can tell you that I was generally happy with the setup especially with the 670 SA sitting on top mixing the air and fuel.

In my experience like with most things as you drive they wear in, same with mufflers and over time the sound changes. The TTI kit fit perfect, just a breeze to install on my car. At some point in the future I will weld in flanges at the joints and rid myself of those horrible clamps. When the system was first installed there was a deep LF resonance that sounded mean and didn't really penetrate the interior. After a putting down a few hindered miles the deep sound I was hearing outside started to penetrate into the cabin. The drone would begin at 1500 RPM and wouldn't leave til 2000 rpm. Yea so okay, that's a small window right? and out on the Highway it sounded great! My friends said "yea man that sounds mean!" BUT one thing though, with 3:91's in the chunk 15K- 2K range was basically my sweet spot for cruising around town driving and that **** got old quick!

So I was on a quest for a solution and like many of us I tried affect the drone by playing with the rate of flow through the system with no real success. I am convinced that if I installed headers things would have been different. I didn't and kept the stock manifolds, so I have no practical proof. one day I even swapped the 3:91 for 3:23 which kind of helped, I still had the drone at the same RPM but the difference was I could manage the speed and cruise in peace. That said, the 3:23 weren't as fun.

Meanwhile, I had been chatting back and for with VOETOM on various topics (Mopar, non- Mopar, personal and political) over the last year which would inevitably lead to sharing with him the thing I did today that didn't work and what I would like to see in a design that didn't require a clumsy resonator tube sticking out of my exhaust (yeah I was being picky). I always like the idea of constructing the tubes right into the muffler in my mind it just makes sense and is cleaner to me (btw,I've come to recently find out Magnaflow making this). Tom tells me to look into the Dynomax VTs, and I come to find out that these babies are made with a valve built into the output offset to manage drone. Hell yeah! I think read a few reviews and find out the pro's and cons check the feedback and decide I'll get some, EXCEPT one thing, you can't get them any more lol! Discontinued! I share this info with Tom who advises me to sit tight.

GREAT GUY Advisory!
Tom Hand basically tracked down a set of VTs Then sent them to me! Awesome! What a guy, I mean this just goes to show you how great our community is!
So yeah i finally installed the Vt's and the sound is still nice a little different, slightly quieter but no Drone!

Some pics of the swap and I'll get the audio comparison up later. The Super Turbos and the VTS are the same size.


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Chambered vs. Straight through design
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GREAT GUY Advisory! Tom Hand basically tracked down a set of VTs Then sent them to me! Awesome! What a guy, I mean this just goes to show you how great our community is!
Tom is a great guy. He helped me out with exactly the same issue and I installed the VT's. I had the opportunity to drive them about 160 highway miles the other day and I am very pleased. They are much quieter at cruise than the super turbos, and have a mellower sound. My combo is quite different with a 500 stroker and headers, but I am also using a tti system and love the way it fit. I started a thread of my own a while ago, but I have not been able to figure out how to post the videos I have made showing the sound difference.
 
Don't understand why but it has been my experience that all things being equal a poorly tuned car will exhaust drone much more noticeably that one
that is tuned to the best of its combination of parts.
 
In the OP, I expected to hear about Flow Masters.
 
Don't understand why but it has been my experience that all things being equal a poorly tuned car will exhaust drone much more noticeably that one
that is tuned to the best of its combination of parts.
I can assure you the tune is likely not the issue in my case. That's not to say the tune is absolutely perfect mostly because the absolute perfect tune can be a unicorn. But it's really darn good, I've spent a lot of time testing and tuning fuel metering, ignition and airflow that made no impact to the drone.
 
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what is this valve you speak of? Sort of a back pressure valve?
 
Gm uses them on the pickups. One laying in my scrap pile today.
Called an anti-drone valve. Spring loaded to give it a little backpressure.
 
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