Demon "Classic Air" AC Install

[DonnieLawson]

I'm going to put one in in my 68 Barracuda with a 440.
I think I may have to do something different the way it comes out the firewall close to the back of the passenger side head. The valve cover will be awful tight there.
Is there anything you wish would have upgraded or done differently ? Looks like an awesome job !

Thanks
Donnie

[6pk2goDemon]

The receiver/dryer mounted almost perfectly in the recessed area of the pass inner fender and the lines fed right thru the factory hole in the radiator support




Time to address the supplied AC lines now. We layed them out how we wanted them to run for a test-fit. The suction line wouldn't work for my application because of the compressor being moved 90*, so we marked the hose how we needed the fittings angled and I took it to an AC shop here in town (recommended by Classic Air). They custom made a line for me while I waited for $25

[6pk2goDemon]

Originally Posted by swifter

SO after all this,You can NOW drive to Indy this year??? See you there--Steve

swifter.....we're hoping to make it again

Originally Posted by jameskernz

I need to ask, how much for this kit $$$,???
Jim

It's around $1300, but my kit was acquired in a trade several years ago . That's another plug I have for "Classic Air". They knew I didn't buy the kit, but were still interested in helping with the install..... Great customer service IMO

Originally Posted by j-miller

Your doing a great job 6pkC! Love the way your describing things and showing pictures as well. This will be a big help for me. Also when I get to this point in my project can I borrow your 4 legged helper?

Thx very much John. U can have my 4 legged helper...He doesn't eat much LOL

Originally Posted by EV2AAR

Great thread , can you provide a picture of the pulley you used for the ac belt. Was it part of the kit ?

The pulley was supplied in the kit and I didn't take a pic of it...sorry. U can find a pic on their website though. It attached to the front of my existing crank pulley with 3 bolts. My crank pulley is non-stock and is billet aluminum, so that's why some add'l shimming was required I guess.

Originally Posted by mullinax95

I need A/C in my car. This heat is brutal and it's not going to cool off. Friend of mine has A/C in is 72 Cuda. He pulls up at the car shows with the windows rolled up with the AC on. I give him the bird...... he knows why he laughs. I burn up every time I take my car somewhere during the summer.

Looks like a good install C

Thx mully....I'm hoping someone flips me off too . I know what U mean about the heat. Hopefully, this AC will extend my cruisin' season a couple of months.

Originally Posted by jaws

You will like this in your car 6PK. I have it in my Barracuda and love it. While you have your interior out, it a good time for some insulation on the floor. Helped alot in my car.

Really glad to hear U love it. It's not functional yet, so I can't comment
Gonna replace the carpet while the interior is out and thx for the tip!!

Originally Posted by DonnieLawson

I'm going to put one in in my 68 Barracuda with a 440.
I think I may have to do something different the way it comes out the firewall close to the back of the passenger side head. The valve cover will be awful tight there.
Is there anything you wish would have upgraded or done differently ? Looks like an awesome job !

Thanks
Donnie

Only thing I can think of would be paying someone else to do it....LOL...kiddin'
The install is not quite as easy as the website makes it sound, but that's not a surprise

Thanks for your input and you may want to call Classic and ask them about this for a big block A-Body. I'm sure it could be done with some creative fabrication.

[65 Dartman]

Originally Posted by mullinax95

Went and checked their website for my car. Sure enough

http://www.classicautoair.com/?q=67_..._Mopar_AC.html

well darn - nothing for an early A If nothing is available, guess I'll have to use a cumbersome 65 factory air set-up in my 65's.

[Tony Fields]

Lookin' good "C" and "B"

[jaws]

Originally Posted by mullinax95

Went and checked their website for my car. Sure enough

http://www.classicautoair.com/?q=67_..._Mopar_AC.html

I was wondering if cars without tinted glass would need tinting for the system to work correctly? I have been told that the glass would need tinting or the AC would not work at all!! I didn't really believe that but I don't know for sure.

Mulli, mine is in a rag top without tinted windows. Like I told 6pk, insulate the floor, a hard top might be better than mine as all I have is the cloth top. My unit blows 36 degrees running down the road.

[mullinax95]

Originally Posted by jaws

Mulli, mine is in a rag top without tinted windows. Like I told 6pk, insulate the floor, a hard top might be better than mine as all I have is the cloth top. My unit blows 36 degrees running down the road.

Yeah I see what you're saying. I can't remember how it got brought up but these two guys I was having a conversation with mentioned the glass had to be tinted in order for the AC to work properly. I didn't say anything but it left me like "What?". However my fields cuda that I mentioned about earlier his car is tinted. Not a real dark tint just enough where you can see it.

[6pk2goDemon]

Haven't made much progress during the week, but here's a pic of the new heater hoses installed with the inline heater control valve.

Also of note, the kit is designed for both heater hoses to be 5/8 instead of one 1/2" and one 5/8" as mine was originally. So also needed to order a new fitting for the intake.......







And here's the kinda cheezy plastic glovebox supplied with the kit. It's smaller than the original and doesn't fit very well, but its in........

[mullinax95]

Originally Posted by 6pk2goDemon

And here's the kinda cheezy plastic glovebox supplied with the kit. It's smaller than the original and doesn't fit very well, but its in........

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Well that's not good for me. The glove box is where I installed the aftermarket fuse panel. I mean I would have to move the fuse panel closer to the front of the glove box. The fuse panel however is already wired and ready for a A/C so I guess that's a good thing. Oh well.

[68383GTS]

Looks good.You think they would have a better heater valve,maybe built in to the heaterbox.

Jim

[6pk2goDemon]

Originally Posted by jaws

Like I told 6pk, insulate the floor, a hard top might be better than mine as all I have is the cloth top. My unit blows 36 degrees running down the road.

Well thanks to U, this is yesterday's progress. I think it was a great idea while the interior was out anyways........I bought 1 roll of foil backed insulation from Home Depot for under $25. It did the whole floor

[jaws]

Yep, same stuff I used. Got some 3M sray adhesive to hold it down a little tighter to the floor.

[swifter]

You WILL notice a big change putting the insulation on the floor,I'm the only one in our group who did it and it makes a BIG difference in the car--Steve

[Lonewolf3165]

Great post! I was wondering about these kits & how they were. Now we all have a better idea of what they're like to do. I'm guessing in AZ a/c is almost a must for healthy & happy cruising. Stay cool!

[Waco Demon]

Good Post I'm going to put one in befor I put all my dash back in . I have a factery air 72 Demon I was told by Classic Auto Air it would not work , but I am going to try . Waco Demon

[67Dart273]

!!COOL!! Pun intended!!

[jaws]

Originally Posted by Waco Demon

Good Post I'm going to put one in befor I put all my dash back in . I have a factery air 72 Demon I was told by Classic Auto Air it would not work , but I am going to try . Waco Demon

It wont, their system is set up to use all of the non air holes in the radiator suport, and non air fire wall. I think they can set you up with parts to make your factory unit work though.

[6pk2goDemon]

Originally Posted by swifter

You WILL notice a big change putting the insulation on the floor,I'm the only one in our group who did it and it makes a BIG difference in the car--Steve

I'm hoping it will make a difference Steve. Every single degree helps here in the AZ desert

Originally Posted by Lonewolf3165

Great post! I was wondering about these kits & how they were. Now we all have a better idea of what they're like to do. I'm guessing in AZ a/c is almost a must for healthy & happy cruising. Stay cool!

Thank U.....yes AZ is ideal for AC in a classic car sometimes even in the winter months LOL

Originally Posted by Waco Demon

Good Post I'm going to put one in befor I put all my dash back in . I have a factery air 72 Demon I was told by Classic Auto Air it would not work , but I am going to try . Waco Demon

I think U would need some extensive work on the firewall if your car came from the factory with AC, but you may want to call them like jaws suggests for parts to update your original setup. I really don't know..........

Originally Posted by 67Dart273

!!COOL!! Pun intended!!

Thx........ I hope so instead of LOL

[flashsuperstar]

[flashsuperstar]

Originally Posted by Waco Demon

Good Post I'm going to put one in befor I put all my dash back in . I have a factery air 72 Demon I was told by Classic Auto Air it would not work , but I am going to try . Waco Demon

x2 what jaws said. I have been dealing with them about my '72 with original factory A/C. They want me to use their Flex Fit System.

[DA69RT GT]

Thanks for this thread....

[71_340]

Here are the differences between an OEM A/C and a non-A/C a-body:

1. The firewall has a bigger cut-out for the fan motor on A/C cars...not a problem, just make an adapter ring out of sheet metal or sheet aluminum.

2. Dash controls are different......use and electronic controller or find a non-A/C controler.

So, if you are mechanically inclined enough to install an entire HVAC system you can take care of the small stuff yourself. As you can see, even the "custom fit" unit needed some work.

[crackedback]

Originally Posted by 6pk2goDemon

Well thanks to U, this is yesterday's progress. I think it was a great idea while the interior was out anyways........I bought 1 roll of foil backed insulation from Home Depot for under $25. It did the whole floor

Well, now the other person can't keep saying "what?" and blame not getting it because of road noise!

[jhdeval]

Originally Posted by mullinax95

Went and checked their website for my car. Sure enough

http://www.classicautoair.com/?q=67_..._Mopar_AC.html

I was wondering if cars without tinted glass would need tinting for the system to work correctly? I have been told that the glass would need tinting or the AC would not work at all!! I didn't really believe that but I don't know for sure.

It certainly helps but it was 90 degrees here in GA today with 80% + humidity an my windows in my 65 Barracuda are not tinted and it was pretty cool in my car even after driving for 45-60 minutes.

[flashsuperstar]

Originally Posted by 71_340

Here are the differences between an OEM A/C and a non-A/C a-body:

1. The firewall has a bigger cut-out for the fan motor on A/C cars...not a problem, just make an adapter ring out of sheet metal or sheet aluminum.

2. Dash controls are different......use and electronic controller or find a non-A/C controler.

So, if you are mechanically inclined enough to install an entire HVAC system you can take care of the small stuff yourself. As you can see, even the "custom fit" unit needed some work.

Thank you for the post, I knew that the hole for the heater blower motor was larger (I am currently making an adapter) and I have the control head and bezel for a non A/C car. You have answered my question about the difference between the 2. Thanks again.