[SOLD] For Sale: 1969 340 carb to pan

72Dodge · Oct 28, 2012

1969 340, very late date, with everything pictured. Carb, intake, x-heads, pan. No exhaust manifold or air cleaner. Nothing that's not pictured.

BLOCK DATE CODE 3?-10-69
ENGINE # EW340P28280195 (April 25, '69 assembly)
Block VIN # 9B355552 (1969 Hamtramck).

I was told this came from a Barracuda, but don't know if it was the original engine from it. I was also told that it's stock bore, but I have not had the heads off myself to check. The person I bought it from is a collector who is trustworthy (for what it's worth).

Intake # 3462848 (340-4 1970) - the engine being a late build, this could be the original intake, or maybe it's not original to the engine. The former seems more likely, but who knows.

$1200. Local pick up only in Milwaukee, though I could deliver locally (southern WI) or possibly to Rockford, IL area on certain dates as I travel there sometimes. Otherwise, PICK UP ONLY.

Might not be too bad for someone from the midwest looking to piece together a factory '69 340... here's most of it already. I have no plans to build or obtain a '69 340 car, so figured someone with one might be able to put it to better use.

***** EDIT: ALSO, my goal here is to raise enough money to buy another Mopar. So, if you have something to sell, and want this, could go as partial trade, or this plus other things I have as partial trade if I'm interested in what you have. *****

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krazykuda · Oct 28, 2012

Something's not right here....

The 69 model year ended in june of 69.

The block cast date is Aug 10, 69.

The 70 model year would have been launched late june of 69 or early july 69.

Are you sure that this is not a 70 model year engine and the vin is 0B355552 instead of 9B355552? Maybe the 0 looks like a 9 and isn't clear in the vin....

It doesn't make sense that the block was cast 2 months after the 70 model year started for it to be a 69 model...

Rocky_JS · Oct 28, 2012

something is a miss for sure the engine was assembled before it was cast. Not that it means a lot but the water pump and timing cover are 70 up.

EW = 69 Windsor factory.
340
P
2828 - 10k cal is a build date of April 25, 1969
0195 = 195th engine build at plant that day

winstoninwisc · Oct 28, 2012

x or j heads

Rocky_JS · Oct 28, 2012

pictures show X heads

72Dodge · Oct 29, 2012

OK, I'll check it out later. Just reading and translating the codes the best I can. Maybe I did read a 0 as a 9 or something. I'll check it out tonight after work.

Thanks guys. I wouldn't be disappointed if it was a 70 instead of a 69, actually.

And yes, they are X-heads. Here's the head casting numbers:

531894 D 03139

531894 D 03219

72Dodge · Oct 29, 2012

OK, I checked it out just now actually.

The Block VIN # starting with 9B is definitely correct. It's clear as day.

The EW340P28280195 is definitely correct also. Very clear.

The one thing I'm not 100% certain about is the block casting date of 8-10-69. The one number that's only 99% clear is the 8. If it was a 3, the whole thing would make sense, right? But the thing is... I really don't think it's a 3, it really looks like an 8. I cleaned it off more, and unless there's something real weird going on, it's clearly 2 closed loops [8] vs open [3]. But that's the one thing that would make it make sense, if that casting date was actually March, then the engine assembled in April, for a '69 model year car.

? Any other ideas on what to look for here? Are we 100% certain about that 2828 build date being April 25, 69?

But one thing I can be 100, even 110% positive about is that VIN. It's 100% clear... 9B. So for now, let's assume that is correct and look at the rest more closely. I will put more time into this after work tonight.

Thanks.

krazykuda · Oct 29, 2012

Could the block casting date be 68 instead of 69?

72Dodge · Oct 29, 2012

krazykuda said:
Could the block casting date be 68 instead of 69?

I have the casting date cleaned off pretty good, but after work I'll take a copper brush to it real good and get to the bottom of this. Based on what I'm seeing right now with these numbers, that's the date that if I got it wrong would make the whole thing make sense, as far as I've been able to see so far. It's more likely if anything that I got the month wrong, than the year, based on what the shapes look like.

kt340sport · Oct 29, 2012

Makes no difference anyway , chance of finding the the orig car it came out of is Nill .I think it is a super buy, anybody that is close for sure , whether it being 68 to 71, just my opinion.

72Dodge · Oct 29, 2012

Thanks.

To answer a few other questions I've gotten privately that I should have posted in first post:

- I will not part this out. All or nothing.
- I have no idea how many miles were on this, I didn't pull it, and I'm not sure how long it's been out.
- I won't try to fire this up, I consider this to be a core to build.

I'll do my best on the date question asap.

Rocky_JS · Oct 29, 2012

"Generally" there is about +/- 6 months from cast to assembly. I have not seen a one month cast/build separation before. Not saying impossible just very unlikely.

E = 69
W = Windsor Can
2828 is Friday, April 25, 1969
8-10-69 <-- could be 9-10-68? 7 months.
9B 1969 Hamtramck car building factory.

http://maxwedge.com/articles/10k.php

72Dodge said:
OK, I checked it out just now actually.

The Block VIN # starting with 9B is definitely correct. It's clear as day.

The EW340P28280195 is definitely correct also. Very clear.

The one thing I'm not 100% certain about is the block casting date of 8-10-69. The one number that's only 99% clear is the 8. If it was a 3, the whole thing would make sense, right? But the thing is... I really don't think it's a 3, it really looks like an 8. I cleaned it off more, and unless there's something real weird going on, it's clearly 2 closed loops [8] vs open [3]. But that's the one thing that would make it make sense, if that casting date was actually March, then the engine assembled in April, for a '69 model year car.

? Any other ideas on what to look for here? Are we 100% certain about that 2828 build date being April 25, 69?

But one thing I can be 100, even 110% positive about is that VIN. It's 100% clear... 9B. So for now, let's assume that is correct and look at the rest more closely. I will put more time into this after work tonight.

Thanks.

krazykuda · Oct 29, 2012

Rocky_JS said:
"Generally" there is about +/- 6 months from cast to assembly. I have not seen a one month cast/build separation before. Not saying impossible just very unlikely.

I've seen a two week turnover from cast to build.

If it is a first time through block on the block machining line, it can be through in 1-2 days. As long as there is no/minimal "down time" on the block machining line.

Then it gets built on the engine assembly line in one shift. And then sent to the assembly plant.

Now if there are any "hiccups" in block machining or engine build, they can be put aside and take days, weeks, months to be "repaired/recycled" through the lines again.

It is a three stage process. It also depends on how "tight" they are running and how many parts/engines are in the "float/bank". If things go right, a block can be cast, machined, and assembled within a week of casting and then sent to the vehicle assembly plant. The engine machining/assembly plant usually runs two shifts, so the parts can run quickly through the system if things are running good.

72Dodge · Oct 29, 2012

OK guys, interesting discussion. Thanks. And thanks for translating that 2828 date code for me, I'll fix that in first post.

I've spent more time looking at the numbers. The casting date month really looks like "8", but you know how those always have extra iron around them? This has that too. And I can "almost" convince myself that the month says "3" due to that extra iron.

I think for now, this is the best I can do. I'm positive about all the other numbers, it's the only one with any ambiguity whatsoever, and it's the one that seems like if I'm reading it wrong, and it's really a "3", it all makes sense.

Anyone locally interested in it, is of course welcome to stop by and have a look themselves, we can inspect it, do whatever you want or need to do.

Thanks.

72Dodge · Oct 29, 2012

And, by the way, this is why I believe it's important to post as many numbers as possible when selling something like this, for full transparency and to help others out as much as possible. And I appreciate all the help when in this case, others have tried to help me also.

Great site here, right!

***** EDIT: ALSO, my goal here is to raise enough money to buy another Mopar. So, if you have something to sell, and want this, could go as partial trade, or this plus other things I have as partial trade if I'm interested in what you have. *****

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