/6 Challenger, Version 2.0

Dartnut · 03-20-2009, 12:05 PM

Keep it as a mild 440. If it still had the /6 in it, i would have voted that way.

Backtobasics · 03-21-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by challengergary

That depends on how the swap was done. You can buy the conversion mounts and put a 440 on a /6 k-member. Don't think anyone has ever bothered to do the inverse...

I think it has a BB k member, as I swapped from a 383 to 440 years ago, and there was nothing special on the motor mounts.

Dartncharger · 03-22-2009, 12:51 AM

Wayyyyy back around 1991 or so, there was a 1970 Challenger convertible with the slant six and 3 spd on the floor.

I blinked and have regretted it since.

Cuda Hunter · 03-23-2009, 02:06 PM

If you decide to install the /6 you will have to find a /6 K member. No other way around that.
I would probably switch it up every couple of years.
Since there is no fender tag, the /6 is less appealing to me and my opinion.

waggin · 03-23-2009, 03:46 PM

you gonna cruise it or sell it on barrette jackson? if your gonna cruise it I'd say either way you wan't to goooooooooooo! but if you like the car and want to be cruising the tires off it....make you some motor mounts for the slanty that will bolt to the bb k frame and put some duals a super six intake and a holley 350 2 bbl with some cruise control and a/c and have a ball!!!!Just enjoy the car trailer and garage queens are nice but cars are for cruisin!! J M O
P.S. don't forget the "shaker hood scoop" they'll never suspect a thing till ya pop the hood

440SCOUT · 03-23-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartnut

Keep it as a mild 440. If it still had the /6 in it, i would have voted that way.

thats what i think too..

chasb · 03-23-2009, 06:41 PM

For obvious reasons.

I'd definitely stay with that.

goldduster360 · 03-24-2009, 09:49 AM

The reason there were slant six A body cars is so there could be special A body cars, you know the ones with good engines in them: 273-318-340-360-383. A transplanted 440 seems very special. Let the other guys keep driving their slants so you can be one of the guys with a good one

I am sure this response will piss some people off

I drove my 73 with slant power the first 25 years of it's life, don't know why I waited so long to drop in the 360. My dad bought the car from a lady when it was less than 1yr old. It was generously optioned with a/c, buckets,spacesaver, Goldduster package with full whl covers and tape stripes and canopy vinyl roof. It had the slant six/904 with manual drums. Typical chick car of the era. Who wants to drive a chick car? That's what Miata's are for.

I have seen maybe one slant six E-Body that I can remember, what a waste of a good body that was.

What is so special about a slanting six? Mine got about the same economy as a 318 2bbl car which would run circles around it. It was weak, noisey and really not that miserly to drive. Yeah, yeah, you can turbo charge it or hyper-pak it but it's still a loser compared to what you could do with a small block for less money. Amazingly, it was not an oil burner with over 160,000 miles on it, not many small blocks can claim that on original guides and seals, so it was the benchmark of durable, that's about it.

blu340dart · 03-24-2009, 01:56 PM

If you have no option tag or buildsheet then I say keep the 440 in it and enjoy it for what it is. But in my case I have the numbers matching drivetrain,fender tag(although real rusty) and 2 buildsheets and documentation from the original owner,so /6 is what im going with here.

Backtobasics · 03-25-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by goldduster360

The reason there were slant six A body cars is so there could be special A body cars, you know the ones with good engines in them: 273-318-340-360-383. A transplanted 440 seems very special. Let the other guys keep driving their slants so you can be one of the guys with a good one

I have seen maybe one slant six E-Body that I can remember, what a waste of a good body that was.

You answer vexes me. I was not sure by first sentence if you understood my question, but the 2nd sentence makes me think so.
To clarify, I have a 1970 Challenger, that was originally a /6 car, but I lost the fender tag years ago. It currently is 44/727, and I am toying with going back to /6 auto, with modifications, so I can afford to drive and enjoy it more often.
In this, I would either remove the big block stuff, and go back to a slant 6, perhaps hyperpak, or perhaps turbo, both are within my abilities. Most are right that the /6 without the tag is less desireable, but this car has shaved marker lights, etc that make it not the right car for concourse direction. I would lean towards a hot /6 that I can drive ALOT, or the mild 440 that I can drive SOME, but summer, and "presumed" higher gas prices will curtail the enjoyment.

IfItsGotWheels · 03-26-2009, 11:01 AM

Not that I have anything against sixes but because it's originally a slant, very little you can do to this car would decrease its value.
Not totally true. I've seen a 70 Cuda with T-tops.GROSS
A 440 definitely increases pleasure. Pleasure is what it's all about, right.
IMHO don't go backwards.

danmc77 · 03-26-2009, 11:37 AM

Why on EARTH would someone in their right mind choose a /6 over a BB in an Ebody??!! As far as gas goes, that slanty isn't going to be all that economical either if you work the balls off it - especially w/ a turbo.

In all reality, how much do you plan to drive this car? Even if gas goes back to $4 a gallon - weekend driving really shouldn't put a huge dent in your pocket. If it'll be an every day driver, it'll get old fast - and you may deny it now, but every time you pull up to any car that even has average acceleration, you're going to wish you had the V8. And lastly - get used to people going: "oh - it's only a six?" every time someone takes interest in your car.

Other than that - whatever makes you happy is what I would go with.

skycuda67 · 03-27-2009, 11:00 AM

so if its more about being able to enjoy enjoy the thing more often, why not sell the 440 and use that to buy a built smallblock, 340 would be sweet. why go back to 6? if you were looking to selling it, unless a collectors finding it(even then it wouldnt be numbers matching) some one wont turn their nose up at it cuz it has a nicer engine. its a muscle car! people get them cuz they wanna flex!

63VALIANT*KISS · 03-27-2009, 12:46 PM

as much as ive learned from /6 being pretty quick my dad runs 13.40 in a 62 /6 valiant keep the 440

SoulSurvivor · 03-28-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Backtobasics

1970 Challenger, factory /6, Auto car.

Currently 440 / 727 / 8.75

No Option Tag....

Keep it as 440 or return to /6?

no brainer. do this to it(play loud):

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...-528_40386.htm

SoulSurvivor · 03-28-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rbdart

Putting A /6 Back In When Theres Is Already A Bblk In And Set Up Would Be Like Getting Nuetered........

Ditto

goldduster360 · 03-30-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Backtobasics

You answer vexes me. I was not sure by first sentence if you understood my question, but the 2nd sentence makes me think so.
To clarify, I have a 1970 Challenger, that was originally a /6 car, but I lost the fender tag years ago. It currently is 44/727, and I am toying with going back to /6 auto, with modifications, so I can afford to drive and enjoy it more often.
In this, I would either remove the big block stuff, and go back to a slant 6, perhaps hyperpak, or perhaps turbo, both are within my abilities. Most are right that the /6 without the tag is less desireable, but this car has shaved marker lights, etc that make it not the right car for concourse direction. I would lean towards a hot /6 that I can drive ALOT, or the mild 440 that I can drive SOME, but summer, and "presumed" higher gas prices will curtail the enjoyment.

Yeah, I got it, this is an A body site, wanted to make sure you got it

E bodies are the cats ass though. Don't do anything stupid like dropping a slant six in it

A small block would be the best compromise if fuel consumption is a concern, something that is always on my mind since seeing $5.00/gl fuel. With our current administration in place it's looking like I will live to see one more Jimmy Carter Economy.

An acquantince who has had a 40 Ford since 1960 just yanked out his 429 and put in a 351 windsor and went from 9mpg to 15mpg. He drives the wheels off of it now.

I almost did not drop my 3:55's in place this year because of that, but hey you gotta live a little bit too.

Jester · 03-30-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by goldduster360

What is so special about a slanting six?

-I drove my 73 with slant power the first 25 years of it's life.

-I have seen maybe one slant six E-Body that I can remember.

- Amazingly, it was not an oil burner with over 160,000 miles on it, not many small blocks can claim that on original guides and seals, so it was the benchmark of durable.

You answered your own question. My slant is quiet, I can daily drive it, and average 19mpg in an a-body. Would I put a V8 in there? Yes, but probably a warmed over 318, but it's not worth my trouble to do that.

goldduster360 · 04-01-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

You answered your own question. My slant is quiet, I can daily drive it, and average 19mpg in an a-body. Would I put a V8 in there? Yes, but probably a warmed over 318, but it's not worth my trouble to do that.

Yeah, I wrestled with it for about 5yrs before actually making the swap. I had swapped to a super six intake, rejetted carb, played with the timing curve, car went much better, could almost catch a mini-van.

When I decided to do the swap I knew a 318 was a waste of time when a 360 could be done for about the same money(rebuild a junkyard piece).

With the station wagon two barrel on it and 2:76 gears it got maybe 16 compared to the 18 it got with the super six set up and out running mini-vans was no longer a problem

Total cost of my swap was like $1,200. I think it was worth the trouble.

Stop kidding yourself and go get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!