6.1 Hemi 69 Barracuda Fastback Father Son Project

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'Cuda_ragtop

'Cuda_ragtop

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My first car in 1980 was a 69 Barracuda Fastback. 318 car that I put a 340 into with a Reverse valve Body manual shift automatic.
Fast forward to March 26 2016, purchased a rolling shell basket case to restore/restomod with my 17 yo son. This will be his first car. Only been titled once before I got it. 318 Auto, Bucket seat car. Needs pretty much everything. Ordered full AMD quarter panels in May and received them in November... ugh.
Been removing everything and ordering parts. Filling up my living room with boxes.
This one will be a G3 5.7 Hemi with Hotchkis Springs & Sway Bars, QA1 K Member, PST 1.03 TB, Cordoba 11.75 front discs, Cherokee rear discs. Year One 17" Mopar Rallye wheels powder coated black with 71 dark argent centers. All LBC 5 on 4.5" 8.75 Sure Grip, leaning towards 727+Gear Vendors.
It will not be GREEN! Son's color choice is Viper Charcoal Metallic Outside and Black inside.

This will be a cruiser, street/show machine that he will be able to take to shows and cruise nights. Not a daily driver.

Google Photo Album Documenting everything and to help me put it back together.
https://goo.gl/photos/XjsAsx4LDo7psimU8


Day one 3/26/16 and
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Today 11/12/16 sitting in our outdoor shop... waiting for it's turn in the body/paint shop, Fenders & Fins, Woodinville WA.
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Here's mine. 70 340 4-speed Cuda Convertible stroked to 418.
He will have his own to take to show when done. Plan to be way underwater upside down. $$$
On his. Mine... I'm still way ahead! :)
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Thanks guys!
I have 4-5 hundred photos documenting everything in a GooglePhoto.com Photo Album. Link to it is in my sig.
Will start posting new progress here from time to time as we make progress.
 
Cherokee Rear Disc Conversion. Going to fit these to my 8-3/4 BBC A Body rear end.
Takes a little bit of modifications.
72bluNblu pointed me to these links...
Jeep rear discs on an 8 3/4 axle solution
rear disc from grand cherokee on a 8 3/4
Looks like blue missile got it figured out and documented. Going to follow his lead.

Found this Cherokee rear disc brake kit on EBay for $387 shipped! So I bought it. New Open Box.
Have the 8-3/4" all apart. Was planning on new axles anyway. They will just be 5/16" longer now...
Same kit at Summit for $499... still would not be a bad price for all new parts.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/gta-96-2049-db
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Wheels for the Project car came yesterday
Year One 17"x8" for up front and 17"x9" for out back.
The car will be 2015 Viper Gunmetal Pearl and the Wheels Matte Black with Dark Argent 71 Centers.
Plasti-Dipped just to see if we like it.
We Like It! :thumbsup:
They will be going out for Powder Coat. Keeping the centers just the way they are.
The wheels will be All Black, 100% Only masking the mounting surface.
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Ready and waiting for it's turn. Going to Fenders & Fins Woodinville WA.
Jon Carson will cut out both rear quarters, trunk floor, L/R trunk extensions, rear valance and then to the Blasters and down to bare metal inside and out, then back to F&F for all the new sheet metal and body work and epoxy primer. Will get US Car Tool level 2 Chassis stiffening kit installed too.
Here it is in our outdoor shop. 18'x20' shelter from Walmart! LED Lighting from Costco.
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Hotchkis 25% OFF Right now. Ordered F/R Hotchkis Sport Suspension 22385 1967-1972 Dodge A-Body Sport Sway Bar Set.
$486.75 after discount.
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Double adjustable Upper Control arms still seem a bit too spendy for me.
Anyone running QA1 UCA? I have to buy something since one of the originals that came with the car is bent.
I like the Hotchkis but are they worth the cost for a street car?
Still $516.00 after 25% off!
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Just measured the 8-3/4 rear that came out of the 69 Fastback
54.25" flange to flange and 44" perch to perch center to center.
Yup, 65-67 B body 8-3/4. At first I was bummed but now I'm Happy.
Pros and cons of using a B-body rear axle assembly???
Think it will work just fine with the 17"x9" -5" BS YO Rallye wheels and the Doctor Diff Spring relocate kit.
275/40-17s should fit just fine. The fronts, not sure what will fit but I can test fit the 17x8, 245/45-17 fronts from the rag top.
72BluNblu seems to have the answers to most of my questions if I dig enough. :)

An accurate 8 3/4" rear axle width list
 
'Cuda_ragtop said:
Just measured the 8-3/4 rear that came out of the 69 Fastback
54.25" flange to flange and 44" perch to perch center to center.
Yup, 65-67 B body 8-3/4. At first I was bummed but now I'm Happy.
Pros and cons of using a B-body rear axle assembly???
Think it will work just fine with the 17"x9" -5" BS YO Rallye wheels and the Doctor Diff Spring relocate kit.
275/40-17s should fit just fine. The fronts, not sure what will fit but I can test fit the 17x8, 245/45-17 fronts from the rag top.
72BluNblu seems to have the answers to most of my questions if I dig enough. :)

An accurate 8 3/4" rear axle width list
Click to expand...

Cons, it is wider. May need to move the perches. Need to run deeper offset.

Pros, it is wider. If you want to run "square" AKA same tire and wheel front and rear it is easier to do with the B-body axle.

If you need a specific width that is different than A body and have to narrow the axle it does not matter as much what you start with, as long as it is wider. Then buy custom axles. I ordered my 8-3/4 housing the exact width I wanted from Dr Diff.
 
After talking to Cass at Dr. Diff, I have a plan...
Going to put the rear wheels and tires under the car with no rear end and space them where they look/fit best with the leaf springs back on so I can see clearance.
Measure the distance from wheel mounting surface to mounting surfaces and work the math to figure out what width the rear needs to be flange to flange.
Maybe the B body rear will work as is. If not I will,
1) Shorten the housing and order custom axles from Dr. Diff.
or
2) Order a complete A-Body 8-3/4 housing and custom axles from Dr. Diff.
Regardless I will pay a little extra for custom axles to fit my Jeep Cherokee rear disc brake setup with whichever rear housing I end up with.
 
'Cuda_ragtop said:
After talking to Cass at Dr. Diff, I have a plan...
Going to put the rear wheels and tires under the car with no rear end and space them where they look/fit best with the leaf springs back on so I can see clearance.
Measure the distance from wheel mounting surface to mounting surfaces and work the math to figure out what width the rear needs to be flange to flange.
Maybe the B body rear will work as is. If not I will,
1) Shorten the housing and order custom axles from Dr. Diff.
or
2) Order a complete A-Body 8-3/4 housing and custom axles from Dr. Diff.
Regardless I will pay a little extra for custom axles to fit my Jeep Cherokee rear disc brake setup with whichever rear housing I end up with.
Click to expand...

Don't forget to account for the thickness of the brake rotor surface... and/or just tell Cass what you measured and he can work it out. When I did mine I bolted the wheels up to the existing, measured the existing, and told Cass how much narrower I wanted the new one to be. I then sold my old axle housing, axles, and brakes to someone else that needed them.
 
Yep, Cass told me what measurements to get and what/where to add/subtract.
I'm also going to send one side of my brake kit so he can make sure everything lines up and fits. He is awesome to work with!
 
Pulled the Rear Seat Back Center Latch Cover Fish Medallion.
Cleaned it.
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Sanded out some of the pits and masked it.
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Primed it
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And painted it with some silver caliper paint I had extra.
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While far from perfect but it turned out as well as I had hoped, maybe better.
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Maybe an hour total labor. Mostly waiting for paint to dry.
 
Flying out to Philly tomorrow for work, so while I'm there I'm going to stop by Totally Auto and say hi.
I shipped my complete grills to them for a quote to completely restore them.
Will have some time on Wednesday to stop by and talk with them and see their store/shop.
It will be a nice little side trip to Feasterville PA.

Totally Auto Inc.
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