Torsion Bar Options

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    I have a 1964 Valiant convertible that was originally a 6 cylinder and now has a 318. The front end sits noticeably lower than the rear. Upon inspection, the torsion bars were 'maxed out', so there is no way to raise the front end any further. What are my options? Do any companies make longer torsion bars.? Also, do they make front/rear sway bars for this year/model vehicle? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
     
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    "Longer" bars would be for a B/E Body. What you want is a thicker in diameter A Body torsion bars. I forget what a stock 64 with a slant would have had so an upgrade would certainly help. A lot of members run .92 and higher bars which really helps in the ride and handling department. I would do a little research as everyone will have their own recommendations. I personally am going with 1.0 inch torsion bars from PST on my wagon.

    Original Front early A sway bars show up occasionally for sale. You will need the LCA's with outboard sway bar tabs to run original sway bars. They show up for sale as well. 67-72 LCA's with the sway bar tab also work on early A's with the stock sway bar.

    Helwig makes a beefy 1 & 1/4 inch (I think) hollow front sway bar that is light weight compared to a solid sway bar. Although not a true bolt-in, it's pretty close and can be used with original LCA's with the tab. It will also bolt to a tab that is attached to the shock bolt as well. The Helwig is what I will be using.

    Hope some of this helps!
     
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    You don't want longer torsion bars, but larger diameter. Best deal I have found:

    1.03" Torsion Bar - A Body

    Mopar Performance makes some as well:

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dcc-5249150/overview/

    Sway bars, I suggest Hellwig:

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hel-55914/overview/year/1964/make/plymouth/model/valiant


    You may find that in addition to this fun performance stuff, the car needs basic stuff like a front end rebuild. I am doing the same thing to the same car myself right now. This, along with the mods, makes the cars handle pretty well....

    Incidentally, what are you doing for brakes?
     
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    Thank you. That information was very helpful.
     
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    Thanks for the sites. I've got some research to do. Current brakes are 9-inch drum.
     
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    I would strongly encourage a brake upgrade, at least to the dual pot master cylinder....I am putting disc brakes on mine from a 73+ a body. Lots of options on brakes, but a must in my opinion.

    sb
     
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    Thankfully, the car came with power brakes and a dual pot m.c., but an excellent recommendation. Not sure I would tolerate manual brakes for long at my age. Thanks again.
     
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    Just wanted to thank you again. Ordered the PST torsion bars you recommended. 1.03 inches at that price is about the best I could find.
     
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      Glad to hear you made the purchase. If you need assistance once you received them please feel free to contact me.

      Thanks
      James From
       
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      power brakes are still nice on an old cruiser. You may find the bars a little stiff with your soft old shocks. Most run Bilstein or better.
       
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      Thanks for the tip.
       
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      BTW-Any particular series of Bilstein? Which company has the best price, in your opinion?
       
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      cant answer that, I run softer 340 bars with KYB's. Some current big bar/Bilstein user could answer that
       
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      The bilstein shocks are Bilstein RCD's. You can't actually buy them through bilstein, RCD buys them and reworks them. You can get them from PST, with the FABO discount they're probably one of the better prices anyway.
       
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      Thanks for the info. BTW-I didn't realize there was a FABO discount. I already purchased torsion bars from PST, but don't remember seeing a prompt on the ordering web page that acknowledges FABO. Any idea how I can apply for that discount post-purchase?
       
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      Not sure if you can do it post-purchase, kinda doubt it. And you have to call and ask for it, it's not on the website as far as I know.
       
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      James,

      I have a PST product question: Why is the 1.03 torsion bar for my 1964 Plymouth Valiant so much cheaper than the negligibly smaller .980 or .870, etc? Just curious. Thanks.

      Doug
       
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