Anyone seen the new car craft Demon Project car?

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Car Craft magazine is building a 71 Demon project car. When you read the article they are making clear that they will be using a non-mopar motor. They are convinced that new LS chevy motors are the greatest motors ever conceived. I for one think it sucks big time that they would do that. They know what reaction it will get.

Scott
 
I didn't see it yet but its just a sin. I think makin any frankenstein car is terrible. It basically says you have no brand loyalty.
 
yeah, im sure they'll can the torsion bars too.....
................MESSAGE TO CARCRAFT: PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE MOPAR!.....
[oh well, those idiots dont know sh#t about Mopars anyway, so I guess making it into a chevy would be a viable alternative. I remember once they saud that a 318 was extenally balanced......there only salvation is if they buy an article from Dulcich on Mopars.....Jeff Smith, fuggettabouttit. He couldn't tell a slant-six from a Hemi]
......LS1's......My question is "why"......
 
Only those douch bags would do something as gay as that. Only pussies wear bow ties.
 
You guys haven't seen the ploy yet? It's to bring about attention. Think about it if it had a 572 Hemi in it, you get some Mopar people to look at it but the second they say it's got a Non Mopar engine, then people start talking about it and look at it to see how they screwed up the car. They examine the car for paint body and how they messed up by using said engine. Take a second to think about it
 
Well yeah I agree with you 1970duster to an extent but, do you think Carcraft would ever think about installing a "new style" Hemi in an old Camaro....I doubt it.
I still believe the mag is "GM Oriented" so to speak. Dont get me wrong, I actually like the mag and it is one that I buy but, I dont think just making HP is the point anymore, its about preserving something that is special about Mopars. I dont think car craft really "gets" the mopar vibe. Yeah its a good marketing ploy, I'll agree with that. I just dont think I would be too excited if they decided to hand me the keys to the thing. I'd prolly put it back to mopar power even if it didnt have as much HP. I hate to say this but HP isnt everything to me.
 
Sounds cool to me, no brand loyalty. LS engines have some neat features, but I understand still a traditional push-rod design. I wouldn't undertake fitting one. I did get some LS coils to eventually try on my Mopar engine. They are simple and powerful - igniter built in, give them 12 V power and a 5 V trigger and get a massive spark.

I know older Mopars and like their engineering. Have 2 newer Mopars that sometimes drive me crazy, though aren't as bad as Consumer Reports claims (Toyota bought them off). I shopped around and they were the best value, so must give Chrysler credit for that.
 
They probably are recycling parts out of the old project X
 
Well what did you expect from Car Craft?!?!?! They became Super Chevy part 2 back in the early to mid 80's and Popular Hot rodding became G-machine monthly back in that abortion that was the 90's.



Oh and it's called HOT RODDING, F "brand loyalty"! If you want something that no one will ever modify or make their own buy a damn Prius!

Sound like a bunch of the HAMB Nazis.
 
What a bunch of bull$hit! I want to know what thier explination is for this. There is no advantage other than negative attention and getting bow-tie butt-holes to read the article... LS engines are no cheaper to build and offer no distinct advantages over the latemodel Hemi. What about the brackets and headers? That wont be cheap either. What gives? Do they just have the junk laying around? :angry7:

Makes me want to take the POS 82 Camero I have sitting out in the field and swap a 5.7 Hemi, a 904 trans, 8 3/4 rear with some Super Stock leaf springs and a pinion snubber with a torsion bar front suspension in it. Hell, I could even paint it 'Hemi Orange' with a black 'Bumble Bee' stripe. :thebirdm:
:bootysha:
 
LMAO -- pulled into Wally world the other night and a guy standing outside struck up a conversation with me concerning my daughter's '67 B-cuda I had pulled in with. He asked what it had for a motor. I told him it just had a /6 in it. He replied he had a built 454 that would go nice in it -- I told him Chevy **** is for those who squat to pee. He didn't want to talk to me any more...LOL
 
I told him Chevy **** is for those who squat to pee. He didn't want to talk to me any more...LOL

Since I've met Mike on many occasions, I'm running the imaginary video through my head and LMAO!

Nice going!
 
lmao -- pulled into wally world the other night and a guy standing outside struck up a conversation with me concerning my daughter's '67 b-cuda i had pulled in with. He asked what it had for a motor. I told him it just had a /6 in it. He replied he had a built 454 that would go nice in it -- i told him chevy **** is for those who squat to pee. He didn't want to talk to me any more...lol
ha ha ha yes!!!!!!=d>
 
What a bunch of bull$hit! I want to know what thier explination is for this. There is no advantage other than negative attention and getting bow-tie butt-holes to read the article... LS engines are no cheaper to build and offer no distinct advantages over the latemodel Hemi. What about the brackets and headers? That wont be cheap either. What gives? Do they just have the junk laying around? :angry7:

Makes me want to take the POS 82 Camero I have sitting out in the field and swap a 5.7 Hemi, a 904 trans, 8 3/4 rear with some Super Stock leaf springs and a pinion snubber with a torsion bar front suspension in it. Hell, I could even paint it 'Hemi Orange' with a black 'Bumble Bee' stripe. :thebirdm:
:bootysha:
Do etttt:-D
 
Since I've met Mike on many occasions, I'm running the imaginary video through my head and LMAO!

Nice going!

Dude...you had to be there -- you should have seen his face. It was definitely one of my better comebacks. In the conversation I was trying to hold with him he was alluding to being a Chevy guy and when that **** came out, I couldn't help myself. LOL!
 
Oh and it's called HOT RODDING, F "brand loyalty"!...Sound like a bunch of the HAMB Nazis.

Maybe I've been spending too much time on the HAMB, but it's a muscle car. There's a lot of things you can do to a muscle car, but "hot rodding" isn't one of them. Swap in any engine you like, its still a muscle car. Change all the suspension, upgrade everything along the way, maybe it's a "resto-mod" or a "pro-touring" car. I mean, how do you hot rod a muscle car? Drop in a big block? A hemi? They came that way from the factory! Dropping in a Chevy engine serves no purpose. It doesn't make it faster, lighter, or better in any way. And unless you go out of the way to modify the bodywork, I don't see how it can be a hot rod. Show me a chopped, channeled, sectioned or frenched muscle car that looks like something other than a chopped up musclecar and I'll consider revising my opinion.

Until then, its lame. It's being done because 1. CC has LS1 engines given to them for free, and 2. It will stir up publicity, which in today's world quickly translates to pissing off as many people as possible. Mopar guys will hate it, Chevy guys will hate it, and Ford guys will be mildly amused at the finished atrocity because they escaped the carnage. Bottom line is, it will sell magazines, so the end result doesn't matter, because CC is in the business of selling magazines, not building cool cars. When they're done with the project, they'll yank the LS1 to drop in their next project and the Demon will sit in a corner until they come up with another nightmare to visit on the poor thing.

And on that note,I won't be buying Car Craft anytime soon.
 
...And unless you go out of the way to modify the bodywork, I don't see how it can be a hot rod. Show me a chopped, channeled, sectioned or frenched muscle car that looks like something other than a chopped up musclecar and I'll consider revising my opinion...

...and Ford guys will be mildly amused at the finished atrocity because they escaped the carnage..

here's a chopped Dart that has a removable Carson top
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And the ford guys don't escape the horror of that one. Guarantee you they use a 9" rear end in it. But its not like Ford guys lose sleep over that, theres so many 9" rear ends, you couldn't help but find one at a pick and pull
 
"Muscle car" era... (just click on the title to see the pics).

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What do you think it is called when a guy puts a 71 frontend on a 73? HOT RODDING!
 
I like Fords, I like Mopars. I would never put the engine from one make into another make. Personal preference I guess, but it just seems to be the right way to do things.

I do not like Chevy's however, so it would be great to buy the ultimate Chevy (69 Camaro, 64 Impala, any year Corvette) and drop a Cleveland or a big nasty Mopar in it. Then most of the people that have no problem with dropping Chevy turds in the engine bays of other brand vehicles would suddenly have a problem. One day I'm going to have to do something like this. It would make my father proud :)

Also, I've been subscribing to Car Craft for over 5 years now and over the last year or so I have noticed even more of a Chevy slant than usual. Everything (with the exception of maybe 2 or 3 articles in 5 years) that Jeff Smith touches has something to do with a Chevy. The articles about reader's garages, engine builds, suspension upgrades, tech questions...99.99% of the time it is a Chevy. So I know he is a Chevy guy...that's great, but why the hell does he have to contribute that much to the content of the magazine?

I've been more and more unhappy lately with the balance they have been showing and if they put a bowtie in this Demon I will most likely be done with their crap.
 
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