Is it just me or........Florence

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I am up early and Florence just hit NC. I already see 150 people need to be rescued. Unless you are sick or elderly I really cant see why you are there. There were buses to shelters to get the people who could not afford a room somewhere. I guess I have no sympathy. Don't cry on the decisions you made. I really hope the Govt does not issue out Visa Cards again!
 
Most people underestimate the power of mother nature...... You know-that thing where people don't accept that control is just an illusion and especially when it comes to weather...

JW
 
When I was 16 years old I discovered the awesome force of hurricanes. I live in a coastal town in S. Texas. In 1919 the city was completely devastated by a Hurricane from the storm surge. The city planners came up with and idea to elevate the city and build this sea wall:


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To the far left you can see the ocean shoreline about 150 feet from the wall. The wall itself is about 20 feet tall (with steps for the beach goers). When I was 16 years old we were hit by this hurricane and it was a big one. Fortunately (or unfortunately) the hurricane stalled offshore and just sat in the Gulf of Mexico just a short distance from my home town. Since the weather wasn't too bad I decided to take my younger brother for a car ride down to to look at the beach to see if there were any big waves. Well.......What we saw we will never forget!!! The hurricane (which has tremendous force) had pushed the ocean up to the top of the sea wall. All we could see was the top 2 steps of the wall, then from there out to the horizon was nothing but sea water. Look at that pic again and imagine the ocean (on the far left) lapping the top of the sea wall!! That's a lot of damn water and a tremendous amount of force that was able to push and hold that much water for as far as you could see in both directions!! It was UNREAL. There was no bad weather at the time and it was quite calm but the ocean was 25-30 higher than it normally would be. I just can't imagine how much force it takes to displace that many billions of tons of water and just hold it up against the sea wall???? In the end the hurricane started moving toward our city and we got blasted. My Dad's house was all but destroyed. The city was badly damaged but survived because of the sea wall. I'll never forget the site of all that water being held up against that tall sea wall, it was amazing!!! As far as I could see the ocean had risen 20/25 feet and it just stood there as if some magical force was holding it!! You'd have to see it to believe it!!!!!!!!! Treblig

After doing a little research I found the pic of the sea wall (taken from the other end of the sea wall) before the hurricane. This pic was taken from the 6 story hotel seen in the background of the first pic as the hurricane was approaching but before it stalled in the Gulf of Mexico. You can see how the water has already risen about 15 ft from the beach to about halfway up the steps of the sea wall. Once the hurricane stalled in the Gulf the weather calmed down a bit and that's when I took my brother for a car ride down to the sea wall. Evidently the hurricane exerts tremendous downward pressure out in the open sea waters which forces the water to rise around the exterior of the hurricane...of course the winds also help pile up a lot of water but there was very little wind when me and my brother went to the sea wall. When me and my brother saw the sea wall the water was eerily calm (like, scary calm) but the sea water was just 30 feet higher than it should be lapping the top steps of the sea wall. I've been to this beach hundreds of times growing up and it was scary (at my young age) to think of walking down those steps with the angry ocean just waiting to destroy our city. In this pic you can see our large Auditorium (shaped like a giant Quonset hut, holds thousands of people) just beyond the palm trees. At the height of the hurricane the waves were pounding on the front door of that building, the building has survived to this day but the roof was destroyed and the front wall of the building was badly damaged by the waves. So the water had to rise from the beach, 150 feet to the sea wall, 25 feet to the top of the sea wall then it continued across the street to the Quonset auditorium:
marinabeulah5_t6071.jpg
 
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I am up early and Florence just hit NC. I already see 150 people need to be rescued. Unless you are sick or elderly I really cant see why you are there. There were buses to shelters to get the people who could not afford a room somewhere. I guess I have no sympathy. Don't cry on the decisions you made. I really hope the Govt does not issue out Visa Cards again!

you can't fix stupid
 
There are no prizes for bravery in a hurricane. Riding it out places rescuers lives at risk. I know some of you are and some of you have good reason too: high ground, good drainage...but jeez. When in doubt, get out!
Rains came and a man would not leave, trusted God will protect him. Fire truck came and told him to evacuate "God will protect me!" House flooded and a boat showed up. "God will protect me!" Water got higher and man went to roof. Helicopter showed up.." God will protect me".. Man drowned. He met God and and asked why he didn't protect him. God told the man, "Hey, I sent the fire truck, the boat and the Helo!"
 
What Pisses me off is that some DA is putting three or four others at risk. I did Guard for many years and usually you were not picked for your skills to do emergencies, you just volunteered for it.
 
Then there are the Dumb *** reporters out there standing in water with the wind almost blowing them off their feet. Watched a street sign whiz by a Fox reporter's head today.
 
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Best quote of the storm so far...

“Seriously shaken after seeing waves crashing on the Neuse River just outside his house in New Bern, restaurant owner and hurricane veteran Tom Ballance wished he had evacuated.

“I feel like the dumbest human being who ever walked the face of the earth,” he said.”

And so he should.
 
When I was 16 years old I discovered the awesome force of hurricanes. I live in a coastal town in S. Texas. In 1919 the city was completely devastated by a Hurricane from the storm surge. The city planners came up with and idea to elevate the city and build this sea wall:


1576033_orig-jpg.jpg


To the far left you can see the ocean shoreline about 150 feet from the wall. The wall itself is about 20 feet tall (with steps for the beach goers). When I was 16 years old we were hit by this hurricane and it was a big one. Fortunately (or unfortunately) the hurricane stalled offshore and just sat in the Gulf of Mexico just a short distance from my home town. Since the weather wasn't too bad I decided to take my younger brother for a car ride down to to look at the beach to see if there were any big waves. Well.......What we saw we will never forget!!! The hurricane (which has tremendous force) had pushed the ocean up to the top of the sea wall. All we could see was the top 2 steps of the wall, then from there out to the horizon was nothing but sea water. Look at that pic again and imagine the ocean (on the far left) lapping the top of the sea wall!! That's a lot of damn water and a tremendous amount of force that was able to push and hold that much water for as far as you could see in both directions!! It was UNREAL. There was no bad weather at the time and it was quite calm but the ocean was 25-30 higher than it normally would be. I just can't imagine how much force it takes to displace that many billions of tons of water and just hold it up against the sea wall???? In the end the hurricane started moving toward our city and we got blasted. My Dad's house was all but destroyed. The city was badly damaged but survived because of the sea wall. I'll never forget the site of all that water being held up against that tall sea wall, it was amazing!!! As far as I could see the ocean had risen 20/25 feet and it just stood there as if some magical force was holding it!! You'd have to see it to believe it!!!!!!!!! Treblig

After doing a little research I found the pic of the sea wall (taken from the other end of the sea wall) before the hurricane. This pic was taken from the 6 story hotel seen in the background of the first pic as the hurricane was approaching but before it stalled in the Gulf of Mexico. You can see how the water has already risen about 15 ft from the beach to about halfway up the steps of the sea wall. Once the hurricane stalled in the Gulf the weather calmed down a bit and that's when I took my brother for a car ride down to the sea wall. Evidently the hurricane exerts tremendous downward pressure out in the open sea waters which forces the water to rise around the exterior of the hurricane...of course the winds also help pile up a lot of water but there was very little wind when me and my brother went to the sea wall. When me and my brother saw the sea wall the water was eerily calm (like, scary calm) but the sea water was just 30 feet higher than it should be lapping the top steps of the sea wall. I've been to this beach hundreds of times growing up and it was scary (at my young age) to think of walking down those steps with the angry ocean just waiting to destroy our city. In this pic you can see our large Auditorium (shaped like a giant Quonset hut, holds thousands of people) just beyond the palm trees. At the height of the hurricane the waves were pounding on the front door of that building, the building has survived to this day but the roof was destroyed and the front wall of the building was badly damaged by the waves. So the water had to rise from the beach, 150 feet to the sea wall, 25 feet to the top of the sea wall then it continued across the street to the Quonset auditorium:
marinabeulah5_t6071-jpg.jpg
 
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