What do you think it could run?

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318willrun said:
well, the end of my statement was for his Duster when I referenced 1.6's. But, here's my experience. When running a true street car, the 60 ft, and sometimes even the 330 ft is a little soft for the 1/4 ET/MPH. Reason? Because Wallace and other charts are made for DRAG RACING. It's assumed racing gears, racing converter, two of which is seldom found on a true street car. So I have always found the mph to be greater than the actual ET. ALL of my street cars mph better than the et. In other words, my 318 duster should run a 13.9 by the mph, but runs a 14.9 due to 2.76 gears/stock converter. My point is, his car MAY run a mid 11 off of a 1.7 60ft'.
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Sorry, I misread your original post.:(
Ok, but I’ll have to disagree on the calculators or charts being for drag racing vs street as it’s more about a balanced, matched combo that is dialed in, and “hooks” Any of that can be done with either type of car. If you’re saying a street car is different IMO it’s likely something is not ideal is all, that’s not meant as a negative or inferring it’s a bad combo. Let’s say “not optimized” I spent a lot of time trying to optimize my deal for the track all the while keeping street friendly. I’m still tweaking but, putting our stuff aside, He’s intending on running at the track, he’s got 4.10’s, drag radials iirc, a 3000 stall, lower weight, and all else seems pretty matched to me but for the single plane, not a deal killer depending on cam, but we have no idea where the power really starts and ends. How little or big is it? If it hooks good..... So let’s kick back and :popcorn:
 
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jacko241 said:
I am hoping to take my Duster to the strip in the spring. It is BB 383 .030 over, decent cam (unsure of grind but definitely bumpity bump!), roller rockers, 10.5:1, Edelbrock Torker, Holley 750, and fenderwell headers. Trans is 727 reverse manual valve body, 3000 stall converter, 8 3/4 4.10 rear with locker. Tires are 26 inch 9.5 wide tall Hoosier DOT slicks and 4.5 inch front runners. Car weighs 3240. What do you guys think it should be capable of?

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318willrun said:
well, the end of my statement was for his Duster when I referenced 1.6's. But, here's my experience. When running a true street car, the 60 ft, and sometimes even the 330 ft is a little soft for the 1/4 ET/MPH. Reason? Because Wallace and other charts are made for DRAG RACING. It's assumed racing gears, racing converter, two of which is seldom found on a true street car. So I have always found the mph to be greater than the actual ET. ALL of my street cars mph better than the et. In other words, my 318 duster should run a 13.9 by the mph, but runs a 14.9 due to 2.76 gears/stock converter. My point is, his car MAY run a mid 11 off of a 1.7 60ft'.
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His car isnt gonna run anywhere close to 11’s. Not enough going on to do that. I would bet it wont
 
B3422w5 said:
His car isnt gonna run anywhere close to 11’s. Not enough going on to do that. I would bet it wont
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Maybe not. I've seen 383's in Duster make pretty quick work out of mid 11's.
 
By the way, when I was drag racing in the late 70's at Gainesville, I was a terrible driver, so whatever it runs may not be the car's fault :lol:
 
Worse case,( stock 383 with a cam and headers, stock distributor curves, low compression.....not 10:1, 3000 stall that probable only stalls 2700 RPM)
13.30s
Simple thing, like Re curving dist to get 18-20 degrees of timing at idle with out advancing it past 36 total, finding the best shift points, jetting carb to that combo.
You now have a 12 sec combo.

My guess is as much of a guess as any ones. AND IT DON'T REALLY MATTER....................
The hole thing of drag racing is running what you got, an finding ways to make it faster.

My 35 year project was taking a stock 318-276 geared 3800 pound car from high 19S to the current 11.87 ET with high compression 408 strocker. Who knows i may have a 10 sec car before they throw dirt on my ***.:eek::D
It's not about the Destination, IT'S "ALL" ABOUT THE JOURNEY!!!!!:steering::thumbsup:
 
One thing is certain........ nothing anyone thinks it will run, or posts on this thread, will have any bearing on what the car actually runs at the track.
 
PRH said:
One thing is certain........ nothing anyone thinks it will run, or posts on this thread, will have any bearing on what the car actually runs at the track.
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100% correct !!! But, what you think will get ya some red "x"'s and flamed ! :D :D
 
But you have an idea of what it takes to run mid 11's with the 383.
 
Well...... I do know one way to get there.

But that’s probably not the only way.

While I won’t say the OP’s combo running 11’s is “impossible”...... I would put it in the “highly improbable” category.

The MPH will tell the tale of how close to the 11’s it is.
 
I was a terrible driver, so whatever it runs may not be the car's fault.
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This can be a pretty big factor....... especially when it’s a std trans car.

I was watching some youtoob videos the other day. One was a track rental day at Cecil County.
One of the cars there was a 69 SuperBee with a 500” stroker, ported RPM heads, hyd roller, 6bbl, headers, 4 speed, drag radials.
There were several runs in the 14’s.
 
fishmens67 said:
But you have an idea of what it takes to run mid 11's with the 383.
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Seems big blocks are a waste..... according to this thread, my shot 360 in a much heavier truck, with less of everything including arrow dynamics is faster. I think maybe I should stick to small blocks. Wanna buy a cheap big block ?? :poke:
 
Our 383 in my '68 Fury III 4 door. 100% factory stone-stock long block including cam, but the intake and carb replaced (dual plane). NO headers, 100% stone stock torque converter and transmission, 3.55's went 14.7's at 4350 lbs at the start line.
 
I love my Duster, I think it so cool with Road Runner engine in it (at least the size of the RR engine). I agree with what Cudafever said, that making it faster is part of the fun.
Never the less, it will be interesting what it runs first time out. I still have some things to fix and improve before I go, so we shall see. Thanks again for all the interesting replies.
 
318willrun said:
Seems big blocks are a waste..... according to this thread, my shot 360 in a much heavier truck, with less of everything including arrow dynamics is faster. I think maybe I should stick to small blocks. Wanna buy a cheap big block ?? :poke:
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I never said that. You're just comparing two very different engines.
 
318willrun said:
Our 383 in my '68 Fury III 4 door. 100% factory stone-stock long block including cam, but the intake and carb replaced (dual plane). NO headers, 100% stone stock torque converter and transmission, 3.55's went 14.7's at 4350 lbs at the start line.
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WOW:wtf: That is fast in a big ole boat! I posted on another thread the back in the late '70s my daily driver was 1978 Volare Super Coupe with the E58 360 and 727. I had headers and rejetted T-Quad, best I ever ran at Gainsville was 16.02.
 
jacko241 said:
WOW:wtf: That is fast in a big ole boat! I posted on another thread the back in the late '70s my daily driver was 1978 Volare Super Coupe with the E58 360 and 727. I had headers and rejetted T-Quad, best I ever ran at Gainsville was 16.02.
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I wished you were closer, we'd have fun !!! I love the tuning and tweaking part of the game ! We just ran earlier this year with our '89 B250 Van 15.8's. I don't care how slow, they are still fun and I enjoy it !!!! IF you haven't already, check out my youtube channel and you'll see the type of fun we have ! :)
 
I think since 318will has already cracked the 12’s with his 360 Duster, the obvious next step is to show everyone how easy it is to get an A body from the 12’s, and make the leap from there into the 11’s.
 
PRH said:
I think since 318will has already cracked the 12’s with his 360 Duster, the obvious next step is to show everyone how easy it is to get an A body from the 12’s, and make the leap from there into the 11’s.
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stay tuned !! 3.23 gears may come out... and the 204 @ 050. cam Oh, this morning i was on the coan website, thinking on replacing the factory torque converter :)
 
318willrun said:
I wished you were closer, we'd have fun !!! I love the tuning and tweaking part of the game ! We just ran earlier this year with our '89 B250 Van 15.8's. I don't care how slow, they are still fun and I enjoy it !!!! IF you haven't already, check out my youtube channel and you'll see the type of fun we have ! :)
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I bet we would! I am a subscriber to your channel, I enjoy it. You should subscribe to mine! Joe Jacalone - YouTube
 
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