Hey guys. Im getting ready to order these wheels from summit racing for my stock 68 barracuda fastback...i don't have the car to take measurements.. would these rims fit without any issues? Im not sure about tire size yet, i want to get rims fist then decide on tires.. 15x6 front and 15x7 rear.. thanks for and information..
Crager SS 15x7 front 15x7 rear 68 barracuda.
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yeh, they'll fit.
no worries on tires out back (to a degree), up front a little more cautious on size especially if lower than stock.
no worries on tires out back (to a degree), up front a little more cautious on size especially if lower than stock.
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I have 15x7 on rears with totally stock 8 3/4 and factory suspension. Not sure on what backspace is?
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245/60/15 on rears 205 60 15 fronts.
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I have steelies front and rear.
Fronts with 215/65/15:
Wheel Vintiques 63-5654334A Wheel Vintiques 63 Series O.E. Chrysler Black Wheels | Summit Racing
Rear sbp were 255/60/15 on 15x7 with 4.5bs.
Fronts with 215/65/15:
Wheel Vintiques 63-5654334A Wheel Vintiques 63 Series O.E. Chrysler Black Wheels | Summit Racing
Rear sbp were 255/60/15 on 15x7 with 4.5bs.
Hi Steve.. what did you use for lug nuts? You still running left hand thread? Thanks
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No rh hand thread. Lugnuts are the hard to find ones. Not sure what the mfg issue is that makes them hard to find? I got part # somewhere.
4spdragtop
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Cragar 09005-4 are the ones I use. But yep pita to find.
[WANTED] - Wanted: Cragar 09005-4 lug nuts
[WANTED] - Wanted: Cragar 09005-4 lug nuts
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Here is the company(I believe) mfg them for Cragar? Excalibur Wheel.
Excalibur Wheel Accessories
Excalibur Wheel Accessories
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For the rims you're looking at, it says 60* conical seat? I believe mine are shank style?
Cragar 1521911402B Cragar 61C Series S/S Super Sport Chrome Wheels | Summit Racing
Cragar 1521911402B Cragar 61C Series S/S Super Sport Chrome Wheels | Summit Racing
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Those look like the same as mine. I wonder why rim says conical?
Let us know how it all turns out!
Let us know how it all turns out!
Not sure must be a reason.. the one I ordered say "mag seat" not sure what that stands for..Those look like the same as mine. I wonder why rim says conical?
Let us know how it all turns out!
Nice looking car.
Thank you for ordering it lol..
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Iirc, Conical or bulge is not the same as Mag or shank.
Summit shows all 3 Cragars require conical, Cragar website shows only 15x6 require conical.
Strange.
Summit shows all 3 Cragars require conical, Cragar website shows only 15x6 require conical.
Strange.
Thanks. I canceled my lugnut order.. I'll do some more research to get correct type lug nuts.. thanks
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Darren, I would get in touch with Summit or Cragar and get them to lay their hands on a rim and find out what lug exactly is required.
Yes that's exactly what im doing.. thanks
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FYI on my most recent lug nut purchase for Cragar direct bolt wheels.
McGard lug nuts are superior to Cragar lug nuts, and their washers fit where the Cragar washers did not.
Cragar washers prevented the lug nuts from even going on, once again, direct bolt wheels.
McGard actually resemble the old school Cragar lug nuts.
Cragar Lug Nut Help
McGard lug nuts are superior to Cragar lug nuts, and their washers fit where the Cragar washers did not.
Cragar washers prevented the lug nuts from even going on, once again, direct bolt wheels.
McGard actually resemble the old school Cragar lug nuts.
Cragar Lug Nut Help
It seams like new crager 5x4 wheels use a different lug type compared to the older crager wheels.. or do all 5x4 use the same lugnut type? Thanks
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New ones may, or not. Someone even questioned on Summit why they list conical for all and Cragar website only lists conical for one.
All I have are old school Cragars, hopefully someone knows about new ones.
All I have are old school Cragars, hopefully someone knows about new ones.
I was reading on a post lastnight that I think oldmanmopar started.. he caught a mistake on summit racing website about lugnut types they suggest fot the cragers..
Maybe he can chime in on this.. thanks
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You will need conical acorn nuts on the front and mag nuts for the rear.
You can likely buy the conical 7/16" thread nuts at any tire shop that sells mags or order online at your vendor of choice..
The rear nuts I might even still have some left from my Cragar’s days too. Is your car all right hand thread or do you still have some left hand thread too?
this whole scenario is kind of a pain in the *** because the hex size for a conical/bulge nut is 3/4" and the hex size for the rear nuts will be 11/16". They look slight different when installed as the rears use a shank style with washer but not really noticeable once everything is installed.
Cragar makes the nuts for the rear and are usually available through summit. Part number for right hand thread is A-09005-4 and the left hand thread nuts part number is A-09004-4. They are both only sold in packs of four so you will have extra’s when you’re done but oh well.
I find the washers on the new stock mag nuts for these wheels kinda soft. Avoid over tightening them as the washer will sorta bend a bit around the nut. The old school washers were nice and thick and rigid.
Check wheel tightness often for the first 1-200 miles especially the rears. Eventually they should settle down and stay tight. The front aren’t as much of a concern but it is always good practice to re-torque lugs on new set ups for the first while.
I do have some bags of new shank nuts left over too. If you let me know what you need (right or left hand thread) I’d sell mine.
You will need conical acorn nuts on the front and mag nuts for the rear.
You can likely buy the conical 7/16" thread nuts at any tire shop that sells mags or order online at your vendor of choice..
The rear nuts I might even still have some left from my Cragar’s days too. Is your car all right hand thread or do you still have some left hand thread too?
this whole scenario is kind of a pain in the *** because the hex size for a conical/bulge nut is 3/4" and the hex size for the rear nuts will be 11/16". They look slight different when installed as the rears use a shank style with washer but not really noticeable once everything is installed.
Cragar makes the nuts for the rear and are usually available through summit. Part number for right hand thread is A-09005-4 and the left hand thread nuts part number is A-09004-4. They are both only sold in packs of four so you will have extra’s when you’re done but oh well.
I find the washers on the new stock mag nuts for these wheels kinda soft. Avoid over tightening them as the washer will sorta bend a bit around the nut. The old school washers were nice and thick and rigid.
Check wheel tightness often for the first 1-200 miles especially the rears. Eventually they should settle down and stay tight. The front aren’t as much of a concern but it is always good practice to re-torque lugs on new set ups for the first while.
I do have some bags of new shank nuts left over too. If you let me know what you need (right or left hand thread) I’d sell mine.
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I have 15x7 Cragars on the front, 15x8s on the rear. 225/60/15 front tires, 275/60 rears. Small bolt pattern, 7/16 mag type lug nuts front and rear.
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