Let’s talk about the 8-1/4” diff

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I really doubt that. First, the 400 and 440 went away after 1978. EVERY 1/2 ton 440 truck that I have seen has had the 9 1/4" axle.
 
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My son is a Jeep offroader, he mentioned an outer bearing kit avail to retain the axle like an 8 3/4, to prevent the axle coming out if the c-clip broke .
He once drove home with a sapling tied to the side of his Jeep, to stop the wheel/axle from walking out.
 
That is fine.



I don't know why you would actually laugh out loud about a rear axle but I do laugh at other things that you may find strange.
The 70 Charger standard axle was an 8 1/4" unit. Slant six, 318 and 383 2 barrel cars got this axle. The 383 4 barrel got the 8 3/4" axle.
I'd be surprised to see any C body with an 8 1/4" unit. Years of junkyard crawling and I've never seen one. If they were built, I have yet to see them.
Maybe the early 70s 360 Newports?
As far as vans, I admit that I'm not as familiar with their equipment since I've never owned one.
The trucks though. I've seen 8 1/4" axles in Dakotas, Durangos, D100 trucks but never a 4wd, never a 3/4 ton. If they were built, I've never seen one out here.
Well, the laughing was at they changed the name to 8 3/8... chuckle.... not at you :)
 
I really doubt that. First, the 400 and 440 went away after 1978. EVERY 1/2 ton 440 truck that I have seen has had the 9 1/4" axle.
Actually.... the 440 didn't go away in '78. It hung around a while longer in RV's
 
Actually.... the 440 didn't go away in '78. It hung around a while longer in RV's
WITH blocks that had casting dates no later than 1978.
I'd like to see a 400 or 440 with a 1979 or 1980 casting date. I've heard of the RVs with the 440, I've pulled engines from RVs too.

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It is quite possible that I have not seen all of the oddball equipment that Chrysler stuffed into their cars and trucks.
The 8 1/4" axle was widely used and was a durable unit. I do try to refrain from stating absolutes, just that I have not seen them even though I've been junkyardin' and scrapping vehicles for a few years.
 
It is quite possible that I have not seen all of the oddball equipment that Chrysler stuffed into their cars and trucks.
The 8 1/4" axle was widely used and was a durable unit. I do try to refrain from stating absolutes, just that I have not seen them even though I've been junkyardin' and scrapping vehicles for a few years.
What I highlighted is the bottom line. It was very, very reliable in all factory applications in which it was used. Even in the '73 340 Dusters with manuals.
 
I ran an 8 1/4 in the 73 Scamp (my avatar) that I had for many years. Aftermarket 3.90 gears with an Auburn cone type sure grip. Factory axles. Factory cover. No bracing or anything. Car was not lightened at all.

It had multiple engine combinations. One was a mild 360 with a 100 shot of nitrous. 235/60/15 Mickey Thompson drag radials at the strip. Best time was in the 12.2s if memory serves. Lots of passes on that combo. Also ran a hotter 360 with better heads and no nitrous with the drag radials. I think that combo ran very low 13s. Never had a single problem with it. I sold the car to a guy I know several years ago and it's still going strong (he rarely races it - mostly street driven).

Your truck is obviously heavier than my Scamp so that is an additional factor. But overall I was very impressed with the 8 1/4.
Holy crap, great information thank you.
 
Healthy 385" stroker in a 66 Valiant Signet with 8.25" 3.21 gears and totally gets the dogs--t ran out of it everyday April to November.

Engine is hard on the body, but the rear end has been hanging strong for at least 15 years.

Tom
 
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Me too, I’ve heard in a car it was an 8-1/4 and in a truck it was an 8-3/8. But they’re the same. Not sure how true that is.
Maybe that's the difference.

Oh and on this "big blocks were cut off in 1978". It's really sketchy. They continued for sure in 79 to use them in motorhomes and such. This is similar to the slant 6. In cars, 1983 "or so" was it for the slant 6, but trucks ran through 1987. They also ran until the year 2000 in other countries. What did other countries do for the big block? Similar, maybe? Similar also was the run of the early Hemi. 1958 marked the last year for the early Hemi production, BUT medium duty trucks have turned up a year or two later with them factory installed. Think 354 Power Giant.
 
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Like I wrote, what I have seen and read is that while there were 440s available in RVs after 1978, they supposedly all had casting dates on the block no later than 1978.
I'm okay with being proven wrong on this if someone has pictures of a later casting date. I'm always willing to learn new things.
 
I really doubt that. First, the 400 and 440 went away after 1978. EVERY 1/2 ton 440 truck that I have seen has had the 9 1/4" axle.
I owned a 1977 1/2 ton 4WD with a factory 440 that had an 8.25 in it. Truck was all original. And I looked at another one that was ordered new that was very similar with an 8.25 in it. I, like you, was surprised there wasn’t an 8.75” in either of them. Ma Mopar did some weird stuff at times!!
 

The 8 3/4 axle was out of production by 1975. The upgrade from the 8 1/4" axle was the 9 1/4".
 
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