Originality-does it matter?

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Agreed. IMO, if we're taking about a sought after car like the one mentioned above, originality will affect sale price. But for a run of the mill vehicle...Have at it!

Agree with this as these are the vehicles that fall into the collector realm where originality vs modification can create a huge change in value. For the person with a '76 Scamp \6, originality and value don't go hand in hand and this is a car that may be more valuable when it is modified.

Personally, I have rarely every owned cars with a pedigree that would require an original restoration. I tend to buy outside the most desirable types so I can modify them for fun.
 
I've seen H code swingers where they were asking $40 k I never knew if anyone actually sold for that. I would assume a car that is asking that price is pretty original.
 
My new favorite thing…..16 year old kid with his dads old daily driver. I like to see young guns who just want to drive what they grew up watching Dad do. Although not a Mopar, this young man was super proud to be able to drive “his” car into the Make-a-Wish show and be part of the car culture. Everything on this car was just like his Dad left it many years ago. Old aftermarket ignition, rugged looking interior and body that showed a lifetime of love. That’s my new favorite approach. I voted for his car in the People’s Choice category.

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The crappiest car at a local car show was a beat up and rusted 1984 Ford Ranger. I made a bee line to the truck and talked to the teenager that was sitting in the drivers seat. He was happy as a hen talking about how he found this truck in a field, and the bed in another field, and the rear end in the junkyard, and pieced it all together. But he was most happy about driving it to school, because none of his class mates had cars yet. So to me, this was the best car in the show.
 
A lot of people here have some good understandable opinions with some good examples. My take on the subject is based on my personal taste just like many others. I understand the value of keeping cars original and correct, but I'm not that type of fanatic. I buy what I like, and what I do does not hurt the value of anything because what I have is nothing special. The fanatics can have their matching numbers and rare trim packages, I'll take what I can make mine, even though I leave a lot of things stock... for now.

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My car is the grey Dart.
 
The old body style Rangers are nice I had a 1990 XLT short bed 4X4 with factory lift kit .
Nice. I have a super rare 1988 Saleen Ford Ranger. It's one of 24 made and 11 in existence today (numbered on the dashboard). It's 99% original down to the paint marks and tags on the engine, and the original tires that it rolled out of the factory with. Back in 1988 Saleen was sponsored by General Tire, so the truck has a model of super rare General tires that were discontinued after a short run with Saleen vehicles. It won first place at the Saleen Nationals due to it's originality and correctness.
 
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A guy tells me I am not a purist,,,,just because I cut out the oem rust, don't buy paint to make more patina, delete the heater as it never gets cold enough in S E Texas, don't have to delete the AC as the PO threw it away anyway (no doubt never worked), plug up firewall holes with Ebay junk, radio delete as I am 80% deaf......what say YOU!???? :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
I fully respect the folks that pursue mathcing numbers, show quality, highly desireable, or overrestored cars. But originality has never mattered to me. I'm not interested in a 426 Hemi GTX convertable, etc. I build what I like and am content with that.
 
Never understood restoring to original....... so essentially have a brand new 70s boat that your wifes daily will spank the pants off. If going to all that trouble why not make it look better, drive better and just be an all round better car.
I have a mate thats building a car to stock standard showroom and to me its just flat out boring. I get it if its nostalgic but neither of us were alive when these were even built
 
Never understood restoring to original....... so essentially have a brand new 70s boat that your wifes daily will spank the pants off. If going to all that trouble why not make it look better, drive better and just be an all round better car.
I have a mate thats building a car to stock standard showroom and to me its just flat out boring. I get it if its nostalgic but neither of us were alive when these were even built
While I certainly enjoy restored cars, those who believe old cars should only be restored to stock, have actually hurt what they love, such as the AACA and their ironclad Must be Restored as Originally Built!
That single minded goal probably helped many old cars, That Could Have Been Saved, go to the crusher, instead of being brought back to life as modified vehicles.
Even Rat Rods have saved many from being scrapped.
I ran a one man wood boat shop, and had this discussion with club member/judges of the ACBS(Antique & Classic Boat Society) with very little good feedback.
Their members have let many boats Rot Away by not considering the number that could have been saved. & wood rot leaves so little good structure, that restoring one in that condition is even harder than rust repairs on old cars, and is more than most are capable of. Hull shape must be correct & few patterns exist.
Proper boat modifications can be few & far between. Modern powerplants are more accepted now, as old Marine Engine parts can be scarce.
Even Henry Ford was a Racer, & knew modifications were a understandable progression.
Mostly they just don't care to listen.
 
Restoring it to original is pure nostalgia and then modding it with period correct mods etc takes it even further. One thing for sure these cars were bought new and modded the Direct Connection program was all about that . It true these cars werent great stock watch any old car movie where the cars were actually driven and slid around corners hitting parked cars etc. Bullitt and Gone in 60 seconds Starsky and Hutch TV show all show how these cars handled but taking ion et original condition just takes the driver back to 1970 when you had to know how to drive is all...

keep in mind though right now in 2025 who really knows or cares about original? if a young guy actually wants on eof these cars thay may say "can ya put an automatic in it? if so Ill take it...I had a 9 inch hurst shifter handle with T grip on the table the wife said "what is the hammer for...?" point is we are getting to where no one knows what original is once gen x gets too old. gen X is the last to have ridden in these cars in the 70s and 80s back when there were still hurst shifters in street cars etc.
 
Never understood restoring to original....... so essentially have a brand new 70s boat that your wifes daily will spank the pants off. If going to all that trouble why not make it look better, drive better and just be an all round better car.
Then save yourself all the work and buy a Hyundai.
 
Us old people that were in this hobby back in the 90s when these old "muscle" cars first pretty much BEGAN to have a real substantial following, collectability, a value just starting to show up, where so many guys (and gals) first began to actually desire and hunt down and buy these relics.... and to put them back on the road,,, the majority sought to "restore" to whatever degree and make the cars as they were when new. $$ and time allowing! But...Not everyone. There are always the hot rod set, the drag race set, the custom izer set... the guy that buys rusty projects and they set and conmtinue to rust! BUT...thats great.. the hobby is diversified.
 

Then there's the wall art guys I just bought a few 66 Mustang trinkets at a swap meet people say "you got a 66?" I say no I'm making a wall lamp out of the tail lights...theres a guy on YT who made desks out
of front clips etc.
 
Us old people that were in this hobby back in the 90s when these old "muscle" cars first pretty much BEGAN to have a real substantial following, collectability, a value just starting to show up, where so many guys (and gals) first began to actually desire and hunt down and buy these relics.... and to put them back on the road,,, the majority sought to "restore" to whatever degree and make the cars as they were when new. $$ and time allowing! But...Not everyone. There are always the hot rod set, the drag race set, the custom izer set... the guy that buys rusty projects and they set and conmtinue to rust! BUT...thats great.. the hobby is diversified.
It happened in the late 80's, and it was the Corvette **** who did this to the mopar hobby. Their hobby had peaked financially, and they started buying mopars really cheap. There was lots of money to be made. Those same guys created the OEM part of the hobby [like their vettes], and jacked up the prices on everything. That was the first move away from traditional mopar owners. Real mopar guys, were always making their cars faster. Only women and old men left a mopar stock.
 
Charger 500..nice! (Flush mount rear window gave it away and it says 500 in the stripe for those who dont know...)
 
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It happened in the late 80's, and it was the Corvette **** who did this to the mopar hobby. Their hobby had peaked financially, and they started buying mopars really cheap. There was lots of money to be made. Those same guys created the OEM part of the hobby [like their vettes], and jacked up the prices on everything. That was the first move away from traditional mopar owners.
Corvette ****? they are the last people I'd think who'd buy a Mopar. I do remember in the 80s at least in my area noone wanted Mopar there were a few of us really into it besides the guys who had clean 72 73 340 dusters that were 12 or 13 years old running around town. One guy had a 71 charger super bee etc. but these cars were well beat by the mid 80s and we were broke high schoolers trying to keep them running in auto shop etc. I had a 69 Coronet with a 318 and lateer my 340 Swinget that i still hav e today swinger I didnt pick up till after high school early 90s. it was beat sitting in a backyard needed towed home. My point is these cars were cheap and unwanted at one time A bodies were for sure. I also knew a guy who had a 69 charger RT it sat he couldnt get it going no cash but it was a nice specimen of a charger at the time. i dont know if people remember but the 1978 gas crunch people started unloading chargers and gas guzzlers kids and working guys got them cheap. By the time i started driving in 86 id be second or third owner of a 78 gas crunch unloaded v8 car and they were pretty beat.
 
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Us old people that were in this hobby back in the 90s when these old "muscle" cars first pretty much BEGAN to have a real substantial following, collectability, a value just starting to show up, where so many guys (and gals) first began to actually desire and hunt down and buy these relics.... and to put them back on the road,,, the majority sought to "restore" to whatever degree and make the cars as they were when new. $$ and time allowing! But...Not everyone. There are always the hot rod set, the drag race set, the custom izer set... the guy that buys rusty projects and they set and conmtinue to rust! BUT...thats great.. the hobby is diversified.
Too many cars are sitting around, outside, rotting, their owners going to get to it someday. That causes members on here, that have spent years accumulating parts to take loads to the scrapyard, just when these parts are getting more rare & harder to find.
Not all parts need to be or should be reproductions .
Most people don't restore old parts anymore, and they're missing out as it's very satisfying to do.
 
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