Harassed on the way to the nats?

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North Georgia cops are cool.

They pull you over just to talk guns up here LOL.

For the most part up here they have so many problems with (under construction) subdivisions getting robbed by illegals that they are pretty much just driving from one call to the next instead of sitting on the side of the highway waiting for pretty cars.

Now state cops for the most part own the highway and everyone is taking the chance of getting their ticket punched by the cops.

How many time have you heard..."Did you see how fast those other cars were going that passed me when you pulled me over?"

I suggest riding along with the cops a few nights just to see the crap they gotta put up with.

Cops up here love muscle cars and usually leave you alone unless you get out of control and do something blatantly stupid.

I was merging onto the highway the other day and a subaru WRX was doing his best to keep up right next to me and squeeze me out of my lane as two lanes merged into one so I sped up and took the lane and noticed a cop was three cars behind.

I obviously had to speed up to get away from Mr "I got something to prove" in the Subaru- but the cop went passed and gave a thumbs up.
 
After watching the video, I cant believe that all of the charges werent dropped!! No mention of if the cops were suspended or under investigation. They would be the ones to plant stuff to make anything stick. I hate bad cops!! Crooked ***-clowns, anytime there is any investigation into them they always get suspended with pay or on desk duty. Paid vacation is all it is. 1 strike and you are out as a cop. There was an investigation up here where they swapped out real dope for dummy dope. Inside the dummy dope was a gps unit, they tracked it to the police station and then from there to the cops house. Put them in maximum security with the general population and see how much respect they get.
 
Sorry there are so many cynics out there who are ready to believe all police officers, or should I say, 99%, are bad, despite weak evidence to support this theory.
I am Third Generation Law Enforcement in my family, and I was raised that Law Enforcement is a Calling, not just a job to put food on the table and pay the bills.
All I can say is as a former Trooper, I can tell you that I (and my fellow Troopers) would not have handled the incident the way the SLO Deputies did. Any evidence gathered from the search of the locked cabinet should have been suppressed, and the only charge that should have been filed was the reckless discharge of a firearm. The guy (Hart) never resisted, and unless they recovered the automatic weapon from outside the trailer he never should have been charged with possession of an illegal firearm, from what I could see on the video, IMHO.
 
If a couple of you fellows have that bad of an opinon of PA, why don't you move out?

As far as talking about all the police the way you do, yes, there are bad ones in every line of work. But if you have that big a problem with them and think they are all crooked, how about you become one and let us see what a great job you could do.

As far as the first guy crying about getting a ticket becasue he doesn't have a front license plate, he knew the law, so he got a ticket. HE brought that on himself.

Yes, I have law enforcement people in my family. I know what they put up with. Get over it, and obey the law or vote out the people that create the laws. The police don't make the laws, they just enforce them. SOme don't like the laws any better than you do.
 
340_dart_power said:
and the only charge that should have been filed was the reckless discharge of a firearm.
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Based upon what?? That is entirely the problem here, he shouldn't have been charged with squat. He was plinking away at a target on his own property, against an adequate backstop, minding his own business, before the Gestapo was called by some busy-body neighbor and Roid-rage Roy charges in weapons drawn looking to put a notch on his belt.

"Law enforcement" is the problem. I grew up in an era where there were "peace officers" and we were much, much better off as a society before the militarization of the police happened and every podunk town with one stop light needed an APC and a frackin' SWAT team to serve parking ticket warrants against grandma.

The only way to stop this is to defund them. Starve the beast.
 
I agree with rednesss on he should not have been charged with anything !!
If the responding cops would have talked to him (after they had him in cuffs) and investigating his story, and were not dead set (beforehand) on throwing the book at him, this would have had a much different ending.
He was not doing anything illegal.

As for the Mopar Nats, I was pulled over and ticketed for " failure To Display A Front License Plate".
As I told the cop that Florida issues only one (1) plate and they request that I install it on the rear of my car. He stated that Ohio requires that there should be 2 on the car. I said that is correct-for cars registered in OHIO!!

A quick jaunt down to the Reynoldsburg Police Dept. and a simple talk with the CO took care of the ticket, as well as 4 others given to the other 4 Florida cars that I was with.

And naturally, going south on I-71 about 10 miles south of I-270, I am running at 55 mph uphill and got zapped by laser 4 times before I got to the top of the hill. I was in a 28 ft. Winnebago with the Dart in tow and was trying to stay out of the 4 bbl on the 454. I almost stopped to tell the trooper that his laser gun trigger must be stuck.
I was actually hit by laser and radar more times in the 130 miles in Ohio than I was the rest of the trip by a margin 9 to 1.

Another reason I moved out of the Gestapo State. It is just harrasment and revenue enhancement.
 
rednesss said:
Based upon what?? That is entirely the problem here, he shouldn't have been charged with squat. He was plinking away at a target on his own property, against an adequate backstop, minding his own business, before the Gestapo was called by some busy-body neighbor and Roid-rage Roy charges in weapons drawn looking to put a notch on his belt.

"Law enforcement" is the problem. I grew up in an era where there were "peace officers" and we were much, much better off as a society before the militarization of the police happened and every podunk town with one stop light needed an APC and a frackin' SWAT team to serve parking ticket warrants against grandma.

The only way to stop this is to defund them. Starve the beast.
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I didn't see any evidence of an adequate backstop, I may have missed it on the videos. If I recall correctly, he said he has 2 acres of property. Considering the fact that a .22 caliber round can travel a mile (unobstructed) 2 acres of property isn't a whole lot of land to fire a rifle upon. Not saying he didn't have an adequate backstop, but I didn't see any supporting evidence of one in the videos.
Mind you, I said "charged with", not "convicted of". It may have been a difference of opinion between what Hart thought was adequate and what an objective bystander would think was adequate, in terms of the backstop. That's why you have an independent trier of the facts (the local judge) to examine and rule on the facts.
I'd suggest you examine the language you're using to make this argument that all police are bad. "the Gestapo was called by some busy-body neighbor and Roid-rage Roy charges in weapons drawn looking to put a notch on his belt" and "every podunk town with one stop light needed an APC and a frackin' SWAT team to serve parking ticket warrants against grandma" aren't helpful. Have you been arrested? If so, what was your experience? And I mean physically arrested, not issued a traffic citation.
For you to have such a biased, ill-informed opinion of people you've never met indicates some major problem you've had somewhere along the line.
No?
 
No, but it fits that you would try to assassinate my character. Have you quit beating your wife? No?
 
rednesss said:
No, but it fits that you would try to assassinate my character. Have you quit beating your wife? No?
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LOL, nice one.
No need to be pissy, we're just talking here.
You still didn't answer the question, BTW.
And it's not an attempt at Character Assassination, I'm trying to understand your position. Work with me.
 
trapster said:
My parents got caught with out of state plates while driving through VA.
They had to pay cash right there for the speeding fine.

Just be careful when driving out of state in anything, you are much more likely to get a ticket.
Doesn't matter what you drive.
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I would have told them over my dead body! The police force in my town got under investigation by the FBI for doing similar and also fixing tickets and aiding in a betting. 2 cops did at least 10 years a piece and most of the force who was involved was terminated
 
340_dart_power said:
LOL, nice one.
No need to be pissy, we're just talking here.
You still didn't answer the question, BTW.
And it's not an attempt at Character Assassination, I'm trying to understand your position. Work with me.
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The fact that you would instantly go with the "must have had a run-in with the law" mentality says volumes about your mindset and you have zero interest in what my position is, you were out to slander. I've gone on plenty of ride-alongs and haven't had a ticket in over 10 years. If this attack on this guy can stand, then NONE of us is safe from being the "unlucky" lottery winner of having the County SS goons show up on our property and trample our rights, and in most cases shoot the family dog. There are never, ever, any repercussions for these jack booted thugs and if there were any justice in this world, then these goons would be spending the next 3-5 years trying not to drop the soap on the floor. Only then will the next guy stop, rub his two brain cells together, and say, gee maybe I shouldn't crap all over the constitution here.

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/

Just some of the "isolated" incidents that happen every day, everywhere.
 
gts340 said:
Be careful how much of a nondescript of a car you drive. I was driving my mothers 97 Neon through the town I work in about two years ago. It's losing the paint on the trunk lid and sort of looks so-so. I got pulled over, for no apparent reason by a marked car that followed me about two miles. When the officer gets up to the door he says I don't have a front plate (true). There are lots of cars without front plates, some of them in the parking lot at the police station I might add that the cops themselves drive. Anyway, I get a warning for no front plate which is fine, but the car has never had one, came from a state that didn't use them and has no bracket. Never been stopped before until the paint started to flake off. He was obviously profiling for insurance violations. I gave him the reason he needed by not running the front plate. I guess people that drive beaters don't have the money for insurance either.
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Maybe a stupid question, but how did he know you had no front plate? following you?
 
I didnt try and start and argument. Some Georgia cops can be real arse's and once you get within GA, they have a quota to meet every month. And it sucks in my area. They will harass you unless you are in Flowery Branch or Oakwood(i.e. further from Atlanta and the tourist trap of the state mall). The Flowery Branch cops, I could sit and talk to all day, they really are nice guys. Georgia State Patrol will give u a ticket for nothing just cuz u wasted their time. I was harassed once. I had a total of 12 cops pull me over in my little truck and them try and force me into a situation that never arose. They claimed my tag light was out which I got out of my car and immediately disproved. They then claimed I was being beligerent and was high on drugs and demanded I be breathalized and mouth-swabbed on the spot and then detained in the rear of a police car. I passed both tests, they threw me in the back of the cop car anyhow (1 of the 6 on the scene). Then they approached me and asked if I would mind if they used my car to train 3 officers to search a vehicle. I responded with a simple "show me a warrant". The cop slammed the door and got pissed, walked up to my car and began to tear off my door panel. A little after, they decided they couldnt hold me anymore and they were just digging themselves a deeper hole and let me go. I asked who was in charge and was pointed to the highest ranking officer on the scene and told him that he should expect a bill for the damages to my vehicle without a search warrant or probable cause. And he sure as hell recieved one and I recieved payment for numerous things they had simply grabbed and ripped off, items such as my stereo and parts of my dash and A/C system and 2 door panels.
 
After reading all of this makes me want to go watch Super Trooper again. LOL!
 
340_dart_power said:
In all honesty, if you drove your 'Cuda through Pennsylvania with the blower poking up through the hood the way it is in the photo I would have stopped you, too. It doesn't comply with PA. Vehicle Inspection Requirements, at least not the ones I enforced when I was up there. I had a guy I stopped with a similar setup who was in Western PA. from Eastern Ohio to attend a car show, and he got upset when I stopped him to chat with him about his blower. His argument was that PA. Inspection Law didn't apply to his car because it was registered in Ohio. I politely pointed out to him that we weren't in Ohio at that particular moment, and that the second he crossed the PA. State Line Pennsylvania Law applied to his conduct as well as his vehicle. I didn't write him up, other than to write a Written Warning Notice (which cost him nothing; just indicated we stopped and chatted about the blower in case he was stopped again while he was in PA.) and send him on his way.
Please don't adopt a blanket judgement of all police officers because of the (possible) actions of a few people in uniform.
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Then if the guy wasn't breaking any traffic laws (speeding, swerving, ect), he had out of state plates (common sense would say that he was just passing through or going to a show) in my book it was an asshole move to even bother him. Maybe he didn't have time to or want to "stop and chat about his blower". The whole process if done by you or another cop is and was a total waist of his time, your time and risked the safety of you, the guy you pulled over and the other drivers on the road if there was no citation given.
It is a fact that when there is a cop that has someone pulled over people always slow down to look (especially if there is a "hot rod") or people get freaked out by the flashing lights and slam on their brakes. I am not saying that that happened during your stop but it does happen even when cops think everything is safe. We have all seen the car chase shows where someone clips a cop or the car that got pulled over.
My dad used to have a 56 Mercury panel truck, it was his daily driver. He got pulled over one day, he asked the cop why and the cop asked "I just wanted to know where you got the sunroof at?" My dad was in a hurry and is a grumpy asshat and told the cop to go F himself and left the cop standing on the side of the road. The same thing happened to me when I had my 73 Scamp with the sidepipes and I left the cop standing on the side of the freeway.

On a different matter Why is it that if you get pulled over at night the cop has to kick on their brights and aim their spotlights at your back window BEFORE you are pulled over and at a FULL stop??? Once again there is a total lack of any common sense and total bad judgement on the part of cops. What do you think happens when some asshole comes up on your *** at night with their brights on? It reflects in your mirrors and you can't see where the F you are going! That might be why it takes so long for people to pull over at night....they can"t see ****! Yes I am speaking from experience.8)

I have met cool cops and total asshole cops. I have also worked with cops (not as one) and I can say from experience that through out all the parts of the country that I have been there are more asshole cops than cool cops. That is why people have a blanket judgment and no matter how cool you are you chose a profession that will mark you as an "asshole cop".
 
rednesss said:
The fact that you would instantly go with the "must have had a run-in with the law" mentality says volumes about your mindset and you have zero interest in what my position is, you were out to slander. I've gone on plenty of ride-alongs and haven't had a ticket in over 10 years. If this attack on this guy can stand, then NONE of us is safe from being the "unlucky" lottery winner of having the County SS goons show up on our property and trample our rights, and in most cases shoot the family dog. There are never, ever, any repercussions for these jack booted thugs and if there were any justice in this world, then these goons would be spending the next 3-5 years trying not to drop the soap on the floor. Only then will the next guy stop, rub his two brain cells together, and say, gee maybe I shouldn't crap all over the constitution here.

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/

Just some of the "isolated" incidents that happen every day, everywhere.
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It's not slanderous to ask you a logical question, which instead of a return rant you could have said either "yes" or "no". Simple as that. It doesn't speak a single page about my supposed mindset; it was an appropriate question to ask you.
You have to realize that I'm not defending the (once again, use of emotionally-charged terms) "jack booted thugs" you're referring to. My point is that most Officers are people you can respect for the job they do every day. I could start a similar post about car mechanics, or attorneys, or judges, or Members of Congress for that matter. "They all suck, they're all corrupted, look at these handfull of articles I've collected, see, that proves it!" The reality is that in every profession, including the one you're in, has good and bad people it in. MHO is that the bad ones usually are the 1-5% who, under the right circumstances, will display their lack of Character and do the Wrong Thing.
I'm not P.O.'ed at you, or trying to insult you, so just back up your Angry Truck and cool off. If I did insult you, I apologize, that wasn't my intention. I was trying to have a rational discussion with you, but apparently I was wrong for attempting to do so.
As there isn't any point in continuing this, let me say that while I disagree with you, hopefully your opinion will change in the future as a result of Police Officer Conduct you happen to witness. Best of luck to you.
 
360scamp said:
Then if the guy wasn't breaking any traffic laws (speeding, swerving, ect), he had out of state plates (common sense would say that he was just passing through or going to a show) in my book it was an asshole move to even bother him. Maybe he didn't have time to or want to "stop and chat about his blower". The whole process if done by you or another cop is and was a total waist of his time, your time and risked the safety of you, the guy you pulled over and the other drivers on the road if there was no citation given.
It is a fact that when there is a cop that has someone pulled over people always slow down to look (especially if there is a "hot rod") or people get freaked out by the flashing lights and slam on their brakes. I am not saying that that happened during your stop but it does happen even when cops think everything is safe. We have all seen the car chase shows where someone clips a cop or the car that got pulled over.
My dad used to have a 56 Mercury panel truck, it was his daily driver. He got pulled over one day, he asked the cop why and the cop asked "I just wanted to know where you got the sunroof at?" My dad was in a hurry and is a grumpy asshat and told the cop to go F himself and left the cop standing on the side of the road. The same thing happened to me when I had my 73 Scamp with the sidepipes and I left the cop standing on the side of the freeway.

On a different matter Why is it that if you get pulled over at night the cop has to kick on their brights and aim their spotlights at your back window BEFORE you are pulled over and at a FULL stop??? Once again there is a total lack of any common sense and total bad judgement on the part of cops. What do you think happens when some asshole comes up on your *** at night with their brights on? It reflects in your mirrors and you can't see where the F you are going! That might be why it takes so long for people to pull over at night....they can"t see ****! Yes I am speaking from experience.8)

I have met cool cops and total asshole cops. I have also worked with cops (not as one) and I can say from experience that through out all the parts of the country that I have been there are more asshole cops than cool cops. That is why people have a blanket judgment and no matter how cool you are you chose a profession that will mark you as an "asshole cop".
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You're absolutely right.
I was totally wrong.
Please forgive me.
I will try to rid myself of my A$$holeness.

Now that we have that out of the way, can we talk Plymouths? Dodges?
 
AAwwwww don't be like that we still love you.....even tho your an asshole cop :bootysha::cheers::toothy10:
 
Reno 911 is one of my favorite shows :cheers:

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Accredited police agencies are where the good cops are.

You guys need to spend some time with the forsyth county police department.

These guys are top notch and extremely professional as their I's are dotted and T's crossed.
if they screw up, they are automaticaly reviewed, repromanded, recorded and action is taken by a review panel, and I'm just talking about little things too.

Most of them are former military and for good reason.

It's hard to get accredited in the first place, let alone maintain it.

Not many agencies across the country are accredited either.
 
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