Finally found my problem...warning to all.

I tell people all the time about just lining the dots is no good.

every time I've degree'd a cam that for fun I check where the dots really put it...so far always advanced.
Mine came out to show 6* retarded on the gear to achieve straight up 110*...

One time I just lined up 2* advanced, then checked later to find 8* retarded is really 2*advance.lol

when you have valve float, the springs spin and will eat into the spring pads, look there.