Which kit?

Which kit would you use?

  • Summit

    Votes: 36 81.8%
  • Ebay

    Votes: 8 18.2%

  • Total voters
    44
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I don't have a ton of experience as much as some of these other guys, but my opinion would also be that a brake swap would not be a good bang for your buck in terms of weight loss, assuming you don't need better rear braking performance (I have a really hard time believing you would unless you're road racing or something). The other reason you gave was availability of parts. That really concerns me, honestly, because I'm wondering what parts you're looking for? I did some internet searches last night for a lot of the 11x2.5 parts and had no trouble finding anything. If you're relying on AutoZone for your parts, that's your big issue. You're dealing with a 30-40 year old car, can you really expect a chain store to tailor to your needs? Especially when you're dealing with a car that has non-stock brakes on it, normally intended for a different application. Do yourself a favor and do searches for C-Body rear 11x2.5" brake parts (whatever you're looking for), at more appropriate vendors, THEN tell me you can't find parts for them. A little bit of research and poking around could save you a lot of $ for other things. If you're really that scared, once you find the parts, buy a couple or a few for the future, and you'll still have a lot of extra money left.
 
i voted summit, only because they have great service and i am sometimes leary about ebay and return policies. either kit would probrably be alright being that its the fronts that do most of the braking.
 
If your intentions are to race this car seriously, and I mean drag race, the summit kit or the ebay kit is probably are the wrong products to be using.
I would suggest a Wilwood kit or a Strange Engineering kit that use better and lighter components and sell for under $500.
There's alot of better ways of spending $500 than on disc brakes or aluminum driveshafts to make a car go faster IMHO but again its your money.

What would these ways be? Im not looking to RACE ONLY, but to lighten the car as much as possible because Like I said, The motor is done and theirs no ability to make it faster unless I lighten the car up and raise the power to weight ratio.
 
I don't have a ton of experience as much as some of these other guys, but my opinion would also be that a brake swap would not be a good bang for your buck in terms of weight loss, assuming you don't need better rear braking performance (I have a really hard time believing you would unless you're road racing or something). The other reason you gave was availability of parts. That really concerns me, honestly, because I'm wondering what parts you're looking for? I did some internet searches last night for a lot of the 11x2.5 parts and had no trouble finding anything. If you're relying on AutoZone for your parts, that's your big issue. You're dealing with a 30-40 year old car, can you really expect a chain store to tailor to your needs? Especially when you're dealing with a car that has non-stock brakes on it, normally intended for a different application. Do yourself a favor and do searches for C-Body rear 11x2.5" brake parts (whatever you're looking for), at more appropriate vendors, THEN tell me you can't find parts for them. A little bit of research and poking around could save you a lot of $ for other things. If you're really that scared, once you find the parts, buy a couple or a few for the future, and you'll still have a lot of extra money left.

I dont feel like paying for shipping everytime I need a part. I know that brakes when done correct will last a long time, but still dont want to pay for shipping. Im trying to lighten the car now to make it go faster. I did search for parts and was not able to tell which were correct for mine seeing as I dont know what model the parts came out of. I dont really care about the price, seeing as if i sell them to someone who really wants them, Im not really paying much for the disc at all.
 
i voted summit, only because they have great service and i am sometimes leary about ebay and return policies. either kit would probrably be alright being that its the fronts that do most of the braking.

The ebay kit is actually the one they sell in JEGS
 
Ordering part is a poorly made up justification. Rear brakes should last years.

I get the fact that rear discs are cool and getting them for that reason alone is fine. Hell I would like to have them my self.

Just don't expect much from them. Fiberglass front bumper and battery relocation to the trunk would be more effective toward your goal and about the same price.

I only say this stuff because your luck with some of your ideas hasn't been that great.
 
I dont feel like paying for shipping everytime I need a part. I know that brakes when done correct will last a long time, but still dont want to pay for shipping. Im trying to lighten the car now to make it go faster. I did search for parts and was not able to tell which were correct for mine seeing as I dont know what model the parts came out of. I dont really care about the price, seeing as if i sell them to someone who really wants them, Im not really paying much for the disc at all.


Okay, that's fine, but what I'm saying is welcome to the world of owning an old car. Thinking you're going to get everything, or anything good at all for that matter down at the local chain store is just not realistic. A lot of the time you can get parts cheaper online than at the chain stores anyway, so paying for shipping is a moot point. If you don't know what you have or what to order, that's another story, but then you just need to do a little more research and figure it out. You don't need to know specifically the car it came out of, just something it was used on, like a C-body from yearthis-to-yearthat. That seems much easier to me than swapping out parts or major assemblies all the time, but again, that's just me. Nothing you're dealing with is as hard to deal with as for people who have REALLY rare cars. You don't. IMO, you have it pretty easy there.

Not arguing, do whatever you want, just trying to put a bit of realism into your justifications. Good luck with your swap if you decide to do it. I'd love to have rear discs too, but to me it's just not worth the expense or bother.
 
Ordering part is a poorly made up justification. Rear brakes should last years.

I get the fact that rear discs are cool and getting them for that reason alone is fine. Hell I would like to have them my self.

Just don't expect much from them. Fiberglass front bumper and battery relocation to the trunk would be more effective toward your goal and about the same price.

I only say this stuff because your luck with some of your ideas hasn't been that great.

I said I wanted to do it with being safe, I dont think an ASAIN driver stopping for no reason then me smashing my new fiberglass bumper or more would be safe. I thought about fiberglass bumpers and trunk already. I also thought about lexan windows for the 1/4 since all they do is swing open. Battery relocation will happen as well, but dont like the idea of a kill switch if i ever wanted to run in any kind of race class.



Also on the Wilwood or Strange Kit, I heard the Strange is known for bothering noises, its what i heard not what I know. Also If I sell the 11in setup I might upgrade to the WilWood setup with Ebrake since it will be lighter and have everything I need.
 
So this is a racist issue now? LOL... okay, you lost me.
more of a Stereotype...and I dont know how you got lost sorry. The topic was about losing weight Safely and you suggested a Fiberglass front bumper. I said how would this be safe with bad drivers and was throwing Asians out there. Also Asians can refer to more than just one race...
 
more of a Stereotype...and I dont know how you got lost sorry. The topic was about losing weight Safely and you suggested a Fiberglass front bumper. I said how would this be safe with bad drivers and was throwing Asians out there. Also Asians can refer to more than just one race...

I never suggested a front bumper, you are the one who is lost! I'm not lost at all, I was kidding, I just didn't and don't understand what asians have anything to do with it, unless you're going to hire some of them to fix your car.

I'm just joking with you.
 
I would have went with "Girl on a cell phone while combing her hair in the rear view mirror"…… Safe, non-racist and an often seen reality.

Just another reason you shouldn't get rear discs.
 
Never Mind, sorry it was another member, and it doesn't matter what i said would offend someone at some point. I'm getting the rear disc setup, end of Discussion on purchasing them or not.
 
Never Mind, sorry it was another member, and it doesn't matter what i said would offend someone at some point. I'm getting the rear disc setup, end of Discussion on purchasing them or not.

Be sure to post up a thread here about how it goes, interested in hearing.

Again, I was just messing with ya.
 
...so in order to go faster, I need to lighten the car...

Depends on what you mean and what kind of racing you're talking about.
OK, your engine is complete and at a fixed power level.
If you're talking about drag racing then you're talking quicker (e.t.) rather than faster (mph). You need to concentrate on getting your existing power to the ground. That means chassis and suspension work will have much more benefit than taking 20 pounds out of your car.
Someone earlier said 20 lbs. is 2 tenths. Actually, I think it would be closer to 2 hundredths rather than 2 tenths.
Take that $500 and put it into your suspension and get your chassis working effectively and you'll be better off IMO.
 
Depends on what you mean and what kind of racing you're talking about.
OK, your engine is complete and at a fixed power level.
If you're talking about drag racing then you're talking quicker (e.t.) rather than faster (mph). You need to concentrate on getting your existing power to the ground. That means chassis and suspension work will have much more benefit than taking 20 pounds out of your car.
Someone earlier said 20 lbs. is 2 tenths. Actually, I think it would be closer to 2 hundredths rather than 2 tenths.
Take that $500 and put it into your suspension and get your chassis working effectively and you'll be better off IMO.

I see what your saying and yes I mean Quicker not Faster. That 20 pounds if im correct of unsprung weight, is like taking 20 pounds from the drive shaft or lighter wheels or something of that sort no? I believe I posted something in a Topic about lighter Drive Shaft that said 1 pound of Unsprung weight is Equal to 10 pounds of Sprung. so that would make it worth more no? Also 20 Pounds is not .2 it would be .02 off seeing as 100 pounds is .10 off correct?


And what would You Suggest I do to my Suspension that I might not Already have spent money on?
 
And what would You Suggest I do to my Suspension that I might not Already have spent money on?

Sorry, I've gotta get some new batteries for my crystal ball - I don't know what you've done suspension wise. Tell us all what your current suspension setup is.
 
What we are saying is this…….. I will be as clear as I can.

You will spend $500.

Any gains in "Quickness" will be so small that they will not matter in the real world and may not even consistently show at the track.

Your stopping power will most likely not be improved because your car set up does not compliment or need rear discs.

So again….. If you like rear discs, get them. They are cool. But don't buy rear discs if you are doing it for some performance gain because you won't see it.

Your parts issue would be solved by knowing what rear brakes you have.

(You need to know what car 11 1/2" brakes came on)

For example…… If those brakes came on a 1972 Plymouth Fury, when you go to the parts store, ask for 72 Fury rear brake parts.
 
Sorry, I've gotta get some new batteries for my crystal ball - I don't know what you've done suspension wise. Tell us all what your current suspension setup is.

I did do that for a reason to see if you suggested things I already had finished knowing I was ok to move on to another area of the Car, but didn't work. haha I currently have Super Stock Springs, Adjustable Pinion Snubber, Frame Connectors, Longer Mopar Shocks and if I can Find them I think I have adjustable Shocks from Summit for the Front end. I have already Lowered the front to get good weight travel when taking off. My next step is to rebuild the front end. Did have thoughts about Mono Leaf and cal tracs or Slide a link, but figured save the money and get light weight wheels and Hoosier or M/T Tires
 
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