ThermoQuad info
* Note: The 446 engine used in 79-81 Dodge motorhomes was built by IHC.
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Rochester Quadrajet (M4ME & E4ME) Listing:
Note: O2 denotes the E4ME feedback unit.
Note: identification number is stamped vertically on the left side near
the secondary throttle lever.
17085407 85-87 318 O2
17085408 86 360 Truck AT F (4306408)
17085409 86 360 Truck AT F HA (4306409)
17085411 85 318 Can Exp
17085411 86-87 318 (4306411)
17085414 85-88 360 Truck HD
17085415 85 360 Truck HD
17085416 85-88 360 Truck
17085417 86 360 Truck MT F (4306417)
17085425 86 360 Truck F (4306425)
17085431 86 360 Truck HD CA Can (4306431)
17085432 85-88 360 Truck HD
17085433 85-89 318 O2 (4306433)
17085434 86 360 Truck F (4306434)
17087175 85-88 360 Truck
17087176 85-88 360 Truck
17087177 85-88 360 Truck
17087245 85-88 360 Truck HD
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Service Parts Information...
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Metering Rod Info (dimensions in inches):
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16-*** is for 71 OEM and CS TQs. 75-XXXX is for 72 OEM and 9000 series.
Step sizes listed, Econ = economy, Mid = midrange, Power = power steps.
Rod # Econ Mid Power
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16-615 .059 -- .040 For CS only.
16-616 .064 -- .030 For CS only.
16-632 .057 -- .040 For CS only.
16-633 .055 -- .040 For CS only.
16-634 .062 -- .030 For CS only.
16-635 .060 -- .030 For CS only.
16-655 .062 -- .040 For 71 OEM TQ only.
16-683 .060 -- .035 For 71 OEM TQ only.
16-683 .058 -- .035 For 71 OEM TQ only.
75-1937 .070 .046 .040
75-1938 .071 .051 .040
75-1939 .070 .058 .040
75-1940 .072 .060 .045
75-1962 .067 .055 .045
75-1965 .069 .061 .045
75-1966 .067 .052 .045
75-1994 .068 .043 .035
75-1995 .066 .040 .035
75-1996 .069 .048 .035 *
75-1997 .067 .045 .035 *
75-1998 .070 .057 .040
75-1999 .068 .054 .040
75-2000 .066 .054 .035
75-2001 .064 .051 .035
75-2002 .065 .052 .040 *
75-2003 .063 .049 .040 *
75-2004 .067 .058 .040 *
75-2005 .065 .055 .040 *
75-2024 .066 .054 .040
75-2086 .069 .061 .040
75-2103 .069 -- .045
75-2109 .069 .061 .045
75-2110 .069 .053 .040
75-2144 .069 .061 .050
75-2145 .069 .061 .055
75-2153 .067 -- .055
75-2159 .070 .062 .040
75-2179 .074 .066 .042
75-2210 .069 -- .045
75-2211 .0715 .064 .040
75-2385 .069 -- .053
Primary Jet Info (dimensions in inches):
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120-3XXX is for 71 OEM and CS with screw-in jets. 120-3XX is for CS with
press-in jets. 120-4XXX is for 72 and later solid fuel OEM & 9000 series.
Jet # Size
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120-330 .077
120-331 .080
120-332 .083
120-333 .086
120-334 .089
120-335 .092
120-3074 .074
120-3077 .077
120-3080 .080
120-3083 .083
120-3086 .086
120-3089 .089
120-3092 .092
120-4092 .092 *
120-4095 .095 *
120-4097 .097
120-4098 .098 *
120-4099 .099
120-4100 .100 *
120-4101 .101 *
120-4104 .104 *
* denotes part of 10-203 Strip kit.
Secondary Jet Info (dimensions in inches):
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120-3XXX is for 71 OEM and CS with screw-in jets. 120-3XX is for CS with
press-in jets. 120-5XXX is for 72 and later solid fuel OEM & 9000 series.
Jet # Size
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120-339 .110
120-340 .113
120-341 .116
120-342 .119
120-343 .122
120-344 .125
120-3113 .113
120-3116 .116
120-3119 .119
120-3122 .122
120-3125 .125
120-3128 .128
120-3131 .131
120-5110 .110
120-5125 .125
120-5131 .131 *
120-5137 .137 *
120-5143 .143 *
120-5149 .149 *
* denotes part of 10-203 Strip kit.
Needle and Seat Info (dimensions in inches):
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Needle/Seat # Size
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25-1068 .111 For CS only.
25-1069 .120 For CS only.
25-1070 .125 For CS only.
25-1086 .0935 * (stock OEM)
25-1091 .125
25-1103 .111 *
* denotes part of 10-203 Strip kit.
Accelerator Pump Cluster (squirter) Info (dimensions in inches):
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Cluster # Size
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48-365s .0
48-369s .031 *
48-370s .035 *
48-374s .075 *
121-662 gasket *
* denotes part of 48-380U package.
Carb Kits (Zip Kits):
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Ref Carter Hygrade Kem B-W Filko Echlin Chrysler
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1 902-299B 657C 15543A 10416A 24-2262A 15543A 3837521
2 902-310A 657C 15605 10478 24-2268 15605 4131180
3 902-329C 1574 15711C 10634C 24-2276 15711C 4271945
4 902-330A 1423 15711C --- --- 15711C ---
5 902-318A ---* --- --- --- --- ---
6 902-292 551 --- 10373 --- --- 3621225
7 902-309 676 15554A --- --- 15554A CT-1062 **
8 5153x --- --- --- --- --- ---
* 902-318A is for the 9000 series, Hygrade 657C is known to work in a 9811.
** CT-1062 is the Motorcraft number for the Ford application.
Carter Strip Kit:
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Carter 10-104 Strip Kit (Competition Series)
Carter 10-105 Strip Kit (Competition Series...SA)
Carter 10-110 Strip Kit (71 and Competition Series)
Carter 10-203 Strip Kit (72-up) (see Strip Kit section for early versions)
Floats:
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Carter 21-252 (nitrophyl), 21-249 (brass)
Chrysler 3780155
IHC 501288-C1
Ford D4AZ-9550-B, CM2028
KEM F104 (brass)
Borg Warner CF252B (brass), CF252 (nitrophyl)
Echlin Fuel Systems 2-483 (brass), 2-427 (nitrophyl)
FILKO 19-105 (brass)
Motorcraft CM-4384 (brass)
Hygrade FL4 (nitrophyl)
Chokes:
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Note: Most of the Chrysler TQ chokes were of the same basic design. In
1973, electric assist was added. Following is a summary of most of the
chokes with model applications. Various versions were available due to
operating environments and emissions. The listing is per Carter choke
numbers from their catalog. Some manufacturer cross-indexing differs.
Chrysler and Hygrade listed for reference....
Carter 170-148. Chrysler 3512875:
4972,4973,6138,6139,6144
Carter 170-245:
6090,6140,6165,6166
Carter 170-1371. Chrysler 4287004. Hygrade CV400 (non-electric assist):
9379 (Canada)
Carter 170-1408. Chrysler 3698355,3751484,4027715,4027793,4095328. Hygrade
CV164:
6318,6319,6320,6321,6322,6324,6339,6340,6341,6342, 6410,6411,6456,6457,6459,
6460,6461,6462,6463,6503,9008,9009,9010,9011.9012, 9014,9015,9016,9023,9024,
9046,9049,9050,9051,9052,9053,9054,9056,9057,9058, 9059,9062,9063,9064,9065,
9066,9068,9069,9072,9073,9074,9077,9078,9080,9081, 9094,9095,9097,9099,9100,
9101,9102,9103,9108,9112,9114,9116,9119,9127,9140, 9149,9153,9182,9188,9190,
9221,9243,9251,9252,9254,9275,9279,9281,9288,9292, 9296,9359,9370,9375,9376,
9379
Carter 170-1409 (non-electric assist):
6518,9000,9117,9118,9150,9151,9212,9214,9357,9358, 9371
Carter 170-1490. Chrysler 4027792,4095984,3830548,4027714,4095341. Hygrade
CV172,CV174:
6452,6453,6454,6455,6488,9002,9004,9055,9076,9093, 9104,9115,9123,9124,9125,
9126,9134,9136,9137,9147,9152,9173,9183,9185,9187, 9193,9194,9195,9196,9197,
9198,9202,9207,9208,9209,9210,9211,9215,9216,9217, 9218,9223,9224,9225,9226,
9227,9228,9229,9245,9246,9250,9255,9256,9265,9266, 9268,9269,9270,9271,9272,
9273,9276,9277,9278,9298,9299,9311,9314,9329,9330, 9331,9332
Carter 170-1598 (non-electric assist):
9234,9236,9244,9305,9306,9320
Carter 170-1621. Chrysler 4095331. Hygrade CV241:
9325,9341,9342,9364,9365,9366,9367,9368,9369,9386, 9389
Carter 170-1675:
9283,9284,9293,9364,9372,9374,9385,9388
Carter 170P-1322A:
9800,9801,9810,9811 (integral choke, 9000 series)
Also note:
73-up without electric assist: Chrysler 4027795, Hygrade CV370.
Choke Pull-offs:
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Note: Most of the TQs used the same choke pull-off. Many 81-84 units
used the same diaphragm with a different bracket for the tamper-resistant
housing. Some 81-84 Dodge trucks, IHC units and Ford used a secondary
pull-off. The listed pull-offs cover most applications...
Carter 202-742, 202-664 (71-up)
Chrysler 3621210, 4049239, 4049240, 4049275, 4131250 (71-up)
Hygrade CPA77 (71-up)
IHC 460369C1 (74-80)
Ford D4AZ-9J549a (74)
KEM CP146 (71-up)
Carter 202-818 (81-84 tamper-resistant)
Chrysler 4267133 (81-84 tamper-resistant)
Hygrade CPA276 (81-84 tamper-resistant)
KEM CP319 (81-84 tamper-resistant)
Carter 202-821 (81-84 secondary pull-off)
Chrysler 4267137 (81-84 secondary pull-off)
Hygrade CPA269 (81-84 secondary pull-off)
KEM CP320 (81-84 secondary pull-off)
Carter 202-981 (84 secondary pull-off, vacuum contolled)
Miscellaneous Parts:
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O-ring, main well cavity: Carter 163-90, Chrysler 3685655 (or 3549406)
Needle & Seat: Chrysler 3621161, Carter 25-1086 (OEM size), Hygrade VN87C
Accelerator pump: Chrysler 4094867, Carter 64-465
Spreadbore/squarebore adaptor: MP P4007522, Edelbrock # 2691.
Air horn gasket: Chrysler 53030600
1/4" spacer base gasket: Chrysler 3698365
Set of four, 1/4" spacer base gasket (3698365): MP P4007902
Solenoid Bowl Vent: Carter: 213-93 (78), 213-145 (79-84 Truck, 79-80 CA),
213-211 (81 CA MT, Can, 81-84 Export), 213-111 (80-84
Mexico), 213-229 (CA AT Truck), 213-240 (81 CA late Truck)
Pulsing Solenoid (O2): 213-193 (81-84 318 car)
Tools:
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Air Valve Tool: Carter 109P-397, Miller Special Tools # C-4152B
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Strip Kits...
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Carter produced Strip Kits in the 70s through the mid-80s for the Thermo-
Quad. These are tuning kits for modifying the performance of the TQ. They
consist of various metering rods, primary and secondary jets and needle/seats.
There were kits for the Competition Series and specific kits for the early
OEM/9000 TQs. Later, Carter consolidated the kits for the 72-later OEM and
9000 series into a single kit. Carter also offered kits for the WCFB, AFB,
and AVS four barrels. A current version of the AFB kit is still available.
All the TQ kits and others have been discontinued. Following is a listing
of the early and late TQ kit contents. The other kits are also listed as a
reference.
Early Kits, CS and other carbs:
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Kit # Carb Type and Models Covered
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10-101 AFB 3783, 4758, 4759, 4761, 9500, 9625
10-102 AFB 4760, 4762
10-103 AFB 3361, 3720, 3721, 3804
10-104 TQ CS4846S, CS4847S (press-in jets)
10-105 TQ CS4846SA, CS4847SA (screw-in jets)
10-106 AVS all
10-107 AFB 4139, 4324, 4325, 4343, 4402, 4430, 4431, 4432, 4619, 4620, 4621,
4742, 4745, 4746, 4969, 4970, 4971
10-108 WCFB 2669, 2816, 2817, 2818, 3059, 3060, 3061, 3190, 3191, 3500,
3501, 3696, 3697
10-109 WCFB 2214, 2218, 2219, 2330, 2351, 2361, 2366, 2419, 2505, 2574,
2575, 2626, 2627, 2656, 2657, 2829, 2830, 3181, 3769
Early Kits, OEM and 9000 TQ:
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Kit # Carb Type and Models Covered, with contents
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10-110 TQ 4972, 4973 ('71 340)
- primaries: .074, .077, .080, .083
- secondaries: .119, .122, .125, .128, .131
- needle/seats: .0935", .111"
- rods: 655, 682, 683
10-111 TQ 6138, 6139, 9002, 9011
- primaries: .092, .095, .098, .101, .104
- secondaries: .131, .143, .149
- needle/seats: .0935", .111"
- rods: 1998, 1999
10-112 TQ 6140, 6615, 9034
- primaries: .092, .095, .098, .101, .104
- secondaries: .131, .143, .149
- needle/seats: .0935", .111"
- rods: 2000, 2001
10-113 TQ 6090
- primaries: .092, .095, .098, .101, .104
- secondaries: .131, .143, .149
- needle/seats: .0935", .111"
- rods: 1995, 2005
10-114 TQ 6165, 6166, 9800
- primaries: .092, .095, .098, .101, .104
- secondaries: .131, .143, .149
- needle/seats: .0935", .111"
- rods: 1996, 1997
10-115 TQ 6318, 6319, 6321, 6322, 6324, 6339, 3640, 6342, 6410, 6411, 6452,
6454, 6456, 6457, 6459, 6460, 6488, 6616, 9013, 9016, 9017, 9022,
9023, 9025
- primaries: .092, .095, .098, .101, .104
- secondaries: .131, .143, .149
- needle/seats: .0935", .111"
- rods: 2002, ??
10-116 TQ 6320, 6341, 6453, 6455, 6461, 6496, 9004, 9008, 9009, 9012, 9014,
9015, 9024, 9046, 9049, 9050, 9051, 9052, 9053, 9054, 9063, 9072
- primaries: .092, .095, .098, .101, .104
- secondaries: .131, .143, .149
- needle/seats: .0935", .111"
- rods: 2003, 2004
Later Kits, OEM and 9000 TQ:
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Kit # Carb Type and Models Covered, with contents
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10-203 TQ All 1972 and later solid fuel type carburetors.
- primaries: .092, .095, .098, .100, .101, .104
- secondaries: .131, .137, .143, .149
- needle/seats: .0935", .111"
- rods: 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005
Later Kits, AFB, AVS:
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Kit # Carb Type and Models Covered
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10-201 AFB All 9000 series, all Competition Series, All OEM w/2 step rod.
10-202 AVS All, All OEM AFB w/3 step rod, high step primary jet.
