19" to 22" Radiator Swap

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StephenShaw

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I have a '64 Valiant with factory 273/904 and now 318. It has the 19" offset radiator with many problems. Current hose config is pass side top hose and a drivers bottom hose and oil cooler (seems to be a strange set up). I would like to swap to the more popular 22" radiator. Seems like an easy trim job to get the needed opening which will be properly centered. Does anyone have any radiator part numbers with year and make that will fit my application?
 
im not sure if the early replacement rads are as readily available as for the later cars but you could try chamion cooling they have a few different configurations in aluminum and are cheap.
 
I put a 22" rad in my 65 Dart out of a 68 Dart. The rad went right in. I bought a smaller fan spacer for clearance. 65 the opening in the rad support was already bigger, 64 you will have to do some trimming.
 
'64 models are a bit more involved than the later cars. I have 2 '64 cars here, both came with V8's, & they have 2 different sized radiator openings, neither of which is as wide as the opening on the '65 & later cars. The biggest problem is that the core support is offset toward the front just to the passenger side of the radiator opening. If you cut the support for a wider radiator you're going to have to fab some type of bracket or something to make up for the offset so the radiator will sit square across the front of the car & air won't try to go around the radiator instead of through it.

The way I plan to take care of this on my car is to swap in the right hand section of a '66 core support that I've purchased. This allows a standard '65 or '66 radiator to bolt into the car. I think Moparlee did the same thing to his '64 Valiant, but he might have swapped the entire core support. It could be done either way. Not sure which is less work. I have the entire '66 core support I could swap but doing that would change the vehicle number stamped on the front of the car.
 
My 64 Valiant has the offset radiator support....I bought a 4-Core 65 Furd Falcon radiator from Champion and held it tight to the pass side and made a small filler panel for the driver side......fits awesome, is dead center. I also am using a 15" 6-Blade Steel Flex-Lite fan w/no spacer has 1" of clearance......ought to keep the 408 nice and cool.

It does have the top hose on the pass side, but didn't pose a problem for us.

We are going to fab up an .060 aluminum fan shroud and polish it.....a 24" x 24" sheet will work perfect and the radiator shroud mounts are small enough to make the install look great.

We also plan to redo the pass side filler panel by welding in a piece rather the bolted in one to keep it stock looking.

I was very impressed with the Champion piece....it did have a very slight rack to it, but pulled in tight with no apparent damage to the radiator.....came with the polished tanks and will clean up well.

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Rickster
 
Great feedback! 64Vart what is the hose config on that 68 Dart rad? Mine is pass top/ driver bottom, which seems to be throwing all the on line guys.

rickstershemi how wide is the Furd 4 core?

I am prepared to cut the front for the wider opening. I just want to find a radiator that is readily available before I start cutting.
 
rickstershemi, your valiant has the 19 inch opening right? or did it have the 22 inch opening?
That champion piece looks perfect for my 65 w/318, as I dont want to cut the lower panel to fit a 22 incher in there.
 
rickstershemi, your valiant has the 19 inch opening right? or did it have the 22 inch opening?
That champion piece looks perfect for my 65 w/318, as I dont want to cut the lower panel to fit a 22 incher in there.

Yes it has the 19" /6 opening - No Cutting 8)

Rickster
 
I appreciate all the help from everyone. I have taken a '74 Duster 22" radiator and by shaving off the bump on the bottom where the outlet hose attaches, I was able to get the radiator to fit below the hood. I have not cut the mount from the 19" hole to the 22" yet, but even with 3" blocked on one side the radiator is cooling fine. I will eventually cut the mount to get complete air flow. I hope to also locate a 3-core Duster radiator to replace the current 2-core. My problem has been solved because the '74 radiator uses an overflow bottle and therfore has a much smaller top tank. I was able to extend my stock 17" fan all the way to the radiator without it hitting the top tank like it did with the stock radiator. I never did find out why my motor is up so high that the fan hits the top tank. I'm hoping it is warm this weekend to really put it to the test. Thanks again.
 
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