Does it help much at all....?

your splitting hairs...

Now, now, don't judge. Splitting hairs like that is a skill and a talent. Not a very useful one outside of whipping up dumb arguments on the internet, but a skill and a talent nonetheless.



the engine is no longer running there for not making heat

I'm sure we all agree on that, even the hair-splitter -- especially since if you look back thru the thread, you'll see nobody ever claimed the engine carries on making heat once it's shut down. Let's applaud another skill and talent of the hair-splitter; he appears to be very good at setting up and knocking down straw men.

but the temp still rises after shutting it down...

Yep. Anyone (even the hair-splitter) whose car has a working engine temperature gauge can see for himself. Just stop the engine after you've been out for a long enough drive to bring the engine up to operating temp, turn the ignition back to the "on" position and watch the engine temperature gauge. It'll rise -- high! -- before it begins to creep downward.