hoping to go before the weekend of the fourth but it may have to wait till then so funds can be gathered up and more of an idea if its gonna need landings which i'm almost sure its going to and thats gonn put the cost for materials up a bit more....strokerscamp took some measurements so it's gonna need to be right at 36 foot long...i'm thinkin come off the left side of the porch 12' to a landing take a left turn go 12" more then another landing and the final ramp will land him on the sidewalk near his gate prefabbing this thing is lookin like out of the question looks more like site built so more help is gonna be needed.....