Trans Snafu and ???

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Eric_S68

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Hey all!
Well here's the quick story... I did a burn out the other day, Thought nothing of it. DROVE the car back into the garage and parked it. Today I went to move it and NOTHING.. No Forward, No reverse... Of course checked the linkage (ok) Fluid is slightly over filled, not burnt. The trans is a 904 that was "gone thru before install" and has a manual reverse pattern valve body, stock internals.

What did I Break ???

Thing that's confuzing me the most is .. I Drove it into the garage!
 
Did you stop the car or back it up before pulling into the garage or did you just do a burn out and pull right in?

Have you tried any other forward gears to see if the car will move in them?
 
Steve, Rolled forward a little after the burnout then backed it all the way to the garage.

No Nothing in any gear..
 
Well then I'd have to say the most likely culprit is the torque converter. Other possibilities include the pump or input shaft.

Between three forward gears and reverse you have every element in the trans used. Something should have worked in at least one position if it was the trans. In this case you have an input failure.
 
Last time (the only time, actually) I had this happen to me it was the shifter cable... it broke somewhere inside the sheath. Move the shifter, check the linkage at the tranny and see if it's actually moving when you move the shifter.

The time it happened to me was in the 1st round of a $10,000 race. Right after I did the burnout, I shifted it back from 3rd to 1st, the cable broke and slammed the tranny into park. That sucked. :-(
 
Well, after a little discussion in the chat room... It seems agreed that I have sheared off the hub on the Torque Converter! It was recently replaced by a local converter guy at a cost of $350. So... I'll take it back and see what they will do for me if anything.

On the bright side , it's nice to know I got enough HP to do that !

On the down side, that burnout may have cost $500 or more.

Enjoy the smoke show , if ya havent seen it!

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t316/Eric_S68/?action=view&current=Burnoutdriveway.flv

Now I know what racing is like..lol $$$ spent and I didnt even leave the driveway :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:
 
Eric_S68 said:
Well, after a little discussion in the chat room... It seems agreed that I have sheared off the hub on the Torque Converter! It was recently replaced by a local converter guy at a cost of $350. So... I'll take it back and see what they will do for me if anything.

i basically agree with you and Guitar Jones...it seems apparent that the pumps not pumping. when u backed it in your garage u still had some residual pressure. maybe the convertor hub or the lugs in the pump. doubtful it was the input shaft.
enquiring minds wanna know...sorry bout your luck! better at home than out on the street or at the track, during a race...
 
Got the trans out today , no damage to converter! I'm happy... seems to be a pump issue. Will get to that later this week.
 
There could still be an internal issue with the torque conveter that you can't see from the outside. Found out this the hard way yrs. ago. A bud of mine had his 75 Fury stop going in all gears and he went to the junkyard and bought a different trans. that was known to be good and it didn't come with the converter so he reused his old one. Put it together and still nothing. Pulled it back out and put in a new converter and worked great. Not sure what broke in the converter but something did.
 
fishy68 said:
went to the junkyard and bought a different trans. that was known to be good and it didn't come with the converter so he reused his old one. QUOTE]

thats a big no-no! (at least unless its been flushed!)
 
I've always wondered what was meant when someone used the term "the trans was gone through," before this or during that. I usually took it to mean the trans' useful life had been "gone through" by the previous owner and serious rebuild work would soon be due.
 
Ace said:
I've always wondered what was meant when someone used the term "the trans was gone through," before this or during that. I usually took it to mean the trans' useful life had been "gone through" by the previous owner and serious rebuild work would soon be due.

No, "gone through' would mean it was taken apart, inspected, cleaned and any thing needing replacing was done. It does not necessarily mean that the trans was rebuilt. It's common practice if the car is under warranty to just fix whatever is wrong and not rebuild the entire trans, although it may have been inspected, cleaned, and reassembled.

In Eric's case, since he just had the trans done we'll probably just limit the repair to the damaged pump. Although we are sure to look it over while we're in there, there's no need to replace all the seals and clutches again.
 
oh yaa, like sometimes i`ll go thru a bottle of "yac" (cognac) ...or my hunnys paycheck! like you "gone thru" that red light after you "gone thru" that 12 pack! haha (now the cops are gone thru...oh heck, i`m "thru" with that!)
...but seriously, considering the comment that the convertor snout was reworked or rewelded it might justify a real close inspection...depending on what you find with the pump! perhaps thts the cause of the pump failure?
 
speedyvision said:
fishy68 said:
went to the junkyard and bought a different trans. that was known to be good and it didn't come with the converter so he reused his old one. QUOTE]

thats a big no-no! (at least unless its been flushed!)

Yes your absolutely right. If I had known he was going to do that I would have told him but he did it before I knew and only contacted me after it didn't work.
 
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