318 Builds

So... stock headed 318s have torque and like to rev over 5000 RPM? LOL



First, you're comparing a modified 318 to a particularly bad version of the stock 5.0. There are many many many 318s in stock form that have wet dreams about running in the 15s.

Second, the 85 5.0 is not typical of the 5.0 Mustangs at all. Especially the TBI LX model. 87-up gets better heads, better cam, factory dual exhaust, etc. With a stock 64cc head, the Mustang gets 9-9.25:1 compression. The 318 gets what? 7.8:1?

Further, I didn't say the Explorers were fast, I said the ones equipped with GT-40P cylinder heads have great heads. Mopars don't have an equivalent cylinder head lying around in junkyards, and even if the 308 was close, they're all cracked anyway.

Example:
A buddys Mustang 92 LX coupe that I helped build: bone stock GT-40P Explorer long block with mustang STOCK camshaft, EFI, etc, 11.90s @ 112mph. $700 factory junkyard engine! Makes 290+ rwhp, 330 ft-lbs of torque.

This is where I got the idea to build my junkyard 5.9 Magnum that's in the dart. The magnum has cost more, and has an aftermarket cam and cylinder heads, but makes about 40 more rwhp than his 5.0 and even more torque. Plus its cooler!

I have had many Mustangs also. None of them, even in their most basic bolt on stages would have ever been beaten by a car running 13.45.

A 5.0 5-speed with gear, slicks and underdrive pulleys will run high 12s if you can drive. My stock blocked 5.0 with a Zex kit went 11.20s.

HOWEVER:
I can see the appeal of building a 318. They have been derided for so long its fun to turn it into something, but $$/hp its a more expensive and trickier deal than building a Ford 5.0, simply because the 318 is compression and cylinder head handicapped in a way that the 302 is not. Thats without even getting into the hydraulic roller vs. flat tappet thing...



are you having trouble letting go? because the more you post the more i see the "ford guy" coming out lol besides who cares, i thought this was a thread on 318 builds, not a debate on ford 302 hp/$$ vs. 318 hp$$. oh,

and for the record i have seen many of sick mustangs too (sick meaning slow, for the upgrades they had, snd still running slow), with small bumpity cams, gears, slicks etc. barely manage high 8's in the 1/8th. theres no sense in downing a 318 when there's some sick puppies in the 302 world too. there both mouse motors... BUT thru the world of after market, the 302 will be a better runner with bigger better upgrades, heads, stroker, etc....

however it IS very likely that a mild junk headed 318 in a a body could run with or outrun a mild 5.0 mustang that has better factory heads, compression, etc. its not that hard to get a decent 318 into the low 9's in the 1/8th which is mild or STOCK mustang territory.

besides, mustangs are like assholes, everbodys got one. be different own a mopar lol....... that would be a good slogan for a new challenger commercial :D