dougs headers

Nope, no slip joint in the Doug's headers. I wish I had more patience when I got these and took the time to photograph them out of the box. The pics you see above are when I was installing the engine, trans, headers and so forth so they are dirty and crummy looking from being man-handled. They need cleaned up thats for sure! To answer your question, the install was pretty decent. On the passenger side you have a good 2" to 3" of room (in my car anyway, 69 barracuda fastback) and on the drivers side you will have to preform the usually ole header shimmy to fit em' in but not quite as bad as installing a "universal fit" set. As far as I know, Doug's and TTI's are are the only ones making a "actual fit" type header for our specific cars while the "x brand" is going to be a universal fit. I do admit the TTI's are a better "fit" and do offer a little more ground clearance but after putting these on my car I will save the couple hundred bucks and get the Doug's. I have yet to bottom the car out (granted I only have about 200 miles on the car) but I have driven in/out of parking lots with ease. No scraping. Anyways, thats just my 2 cents on them. I think I have some pics kickin around of my 67 fastback that had the TTI's ....If I do, I will post them in the next few minutes. TTI does make a great header.