I wasn't jokin about havin a good used one and 250 is what it can be had for. People need to learn to give more info than just "What's a good cam for my 440?" He said he wanted one to be lumpy. A .750 roller will be lumpy, no? With no more info than he gave, I will be just as off base with one suggesstion as I would the other. Like mama used to say, "ask a silly question and get a silly answer."