Tubular Lower Control Arm Thread

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You could probably incorporate the inner fender brace you already have to the top of the arch for support using the same 90 degree angle and keep it mounted up high over the tires. Would look nicer and be a little easier for installation. Are the bottom tubes going to be attached to plates that wrap under the frame rail like the frame rail brace you have?

After installing my leaf spring relocation kit this weekend and realizing the simple construction of our cars it can be real easy to actually over engineer our designs. On the other hand and would rather be safer than sorry. Has anyone actually witnessed the failure of the front sub frame on an A body from something other than corrosion or a 30ft wheel stand?
 
440outlawdart said:
sometimes you need to over engineer if its being driven on the street
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X2! Hell some of the streets around here would rattle a car apart comparible to a New York street. Potholes can do MASSIVE damage. I got my 4x4 g.m pickup sunk in a pothole over 4 ft deep locally this winter. Easily got out,thanks to all wheel drive,but I sure was awake after that!
 
737jetdr said:
You could probably incorporate the inner fender brace you already have to the top of the arch for support using the same 90 degree angle and keep it mounted up high over the tires. Would look nicer and be a little easier for installation. Are the bottom tubes going to be attached to plates that wrap under the frame rail like the frame rail brace you have?
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If I do these then I plan to make plates that wrap around under the frame rails too. They will be fairly wide to spread the load. I honestly think that it and boxing the shock mount would be enough, because most of the force will be upward, but there will be some force inward. I think a straight bar like I have will be better because it will take less twisting force from the firewall and would be cheap insurance. I hope that this all makes sense.
 
Purple Haze said:
What about these
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$225.00 is way out control.
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the guy that invented these adapters the asking price use to be 600 a pair, 225 isnt bad at all
 
Found out something interesting today. These arms should work on the early cars too. I just got off the phone with another member and he will be testing them out on his 64 dart. I went out and took some measurements on the early k member and they should work, because the spacing looks to be the same. How cool would that be?
 
Badart said:
Found out something interesting today. These arms should work on the early cars too. I just got off the phone with another member and he will be testing them out on his 64 dart. I went out and took some measurements on the early k member and they should work, because the spacing looks to be the same. How cool would that be?
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the only thing different between the early A and trhe 1967 and up A is the width between the frame rails all attaching componets are the same,,,K frame withs are different ,,and then the engine mounts changed along the way,,, other then smalll and big ball joints the upper control arms attach in the same way and sizes
 
fstfish66 said:
the only thing different between the early A and trhe 1967 and up A is the width between the frame rails all attaching componets are the same,,,K frame withs are different ,,and then the engine mounts changed along the way,,, other then smalll and big ball joints the upper control arms attach in the same way and sizes
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Thanks fstfish66, I thought the width between the bushings on my arms would be different for the early K, but I measured and they look like they will be the same. The only difference that I found was installing the set screws, but I will figure out something soon.
 
Not to break in to this great thread--But here is a idea--I also would be VERY interested in these because I have the tubular uppers already BUT--A lot of us have FINISHED painted cars already and welding any thing in the wheel house area other than on the frame would screw-up the engine compartment finish--Did you see the upper shock support that a high school class designed in Michigan when they were installing a Cap auto tub k-member???? It was simply a channel welded ONLY to the frame rail and went up under the original shock mount to carry the load--Since QA1 bought out cap I wonder if the are selling those shock supports---Just an Idea--I WOULD buy a set if I don't have to burn -up my paint in the engine compartment installing a Brace---Just my 40 Cents worth--Swifter a.k.a Steve--I think I had seen a article in Mopar Muscle with this shock support
 
i would be very interested but i have the 67 to 72 sway bar set up. any chance of making these with that sway bar tab location?
 
Found the brace-Search cap auto k-frame and about the 7th site down you will see--Tubular front suspension--so easy even a kid can do it----Click on that then go to the article and scroll down to the pic of the brace,Looks like it is only welded to the frame rail--Design one of these and I'm in for a set of lowers and the braces--Swifter--a.k.a Steve
 
swifter said:
Found the brace-Search cap auto k-frame and about the 7th site down you will see--Tubular front suspension--so easy even a kid can do it----Click on that then go to the article and scroll down to the pic of the brace,Looks like it is only welded to the frame rail--Design one of these and I'm in for a set of lowers and the braces--Swifter--a.k.a Steve
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You should post the website page link. I did a search per your instructions and can't find anything.
 
swifter said:
Not to break in to this great thread--But here is a idea--I also would be VERY interested in these because I have the tubular uppers already BUT--A lot of us have FINISHED painted cars already and welding any thing in the wheel house area other than on the frame would screw-up the engine compartment finish--Did you see the upper shock support that a high school class designed in Michigan when they were installing a Cap auto tub k-member???? It was simply a channel welded ONLY to the frame rail and went up under the original shock mount to carry the load--Since QA1 bought out cap I wonder if the are selling those shock supports---Just an Idea--I WOULD buy a set if I don't have to burn -up my paint in the engine compartment installing a Brace---Just my 40 Cents worth--Swifter a.k.a Steve--I think I had seen a article in Mopar Muscle with this shock support
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Sorry I missed your post. I have mocked up something like what you mentioned with a second bar to triangulate it. Is this what you mean?
 

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