So you give up on a 15 year old that doesnt have respect?? My oldest boy at the time didnt respect me, was that cuz I didnt earn it?? Was it cuz he was as you would put it a lost cause?? Gimme a break life is a constant learning lesson no matter what the age, this kid was warned and she didnt heed the warnings, so suck it up Sally straighten yer skirt and get to the chores! By the way my oldest is now 20 and we are getting our relationship back on track. So much for the lost cause eh??