moparbuilder
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purchased trans-dapt conversion mounts would love any good advice on installing this engine into this vehicle. header vs manifold? car has power steering. thanks for any and all advice.
1972 scamp slant six conversion 440 B/RB
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mopar7172
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u can use the schumaker headers.with will work with power steering no prblems and no cutting required to make them fit.can view them at engine-swaps.com u will have to use mini starter.
u can use high performance c-body manifolds. they have to be milled.to make them fit and clear power steering. u have to use a electric fan because u no room with regular fan between the radiator. u also need use a c-body oil pan for clearance they the #187,#699 pans. check out bigblockdart.com then go to the tech info.
u can use high performance c-body manifolds. they have to be milled.to make them fit and clear power steering. u have to use a electric fan because u no room with regular fan between the radiator. u also need use a c-body oil pan for clearance they the #187,#699 pans. check out bigblockdart.com then go to the tech info.
roadrunnerh
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You don't need to use an electric fan or mini starter.
Check some of the pics in this form, and read this.....
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0811_1967_barracuda_big_block_swap/exhaust.html
Check some of the pics in this form, and read this.....
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0811_1967_barracuda_big_block_swap/exhaust.html
mopar7172
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383 is a little different form a 383. 440 is rb block,which is a tighter fit than a 383.u will have to use a electric fan&mini starter.they show a 383 not a 440 swap.
demon seed
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Doesn't matter what it is, use a mini starter, tons of room and a lot easier to remove with everthing in place compared to that 1 ton lunger big assed starter. IMO.
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If you can't afford the cost of TTIs, I'd get the shuamackers, they won't flow as well, but there plenty of header for 450-475 FWHP, once you start exceeding 500 HP you really need a 1.7/8 primary or 1.3/4 minumium, I like fenderwells, you can run PS & any starter you want, the only 2 drawbacks are MC/line heat & cutting up the inner fenderwells, but its not harmful in a basic A body, you really don't hurt the value IF its a clean job, So if your going with a milder BB just get the shuamacker mount kit with the headers, I would also run a mini starter, there alot less weight & easier to install, plus you aliminate that dreaded mopar ta-tur-ta-tur-ta-tur LOL.
roadrunnerh
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My plan is to drop a 383 in my Scamp I recently purchased. I definitely have more to learn about this swap, and I am not trying to cause an argument or act as if I have all the answers – I don’t, but you do not have to go with an electric fan or light weight starter. Yes, you would have more room and the car can run cooler, but you do not have to.
Spend a moment looking at the FABO pics thread for this swap. You’ll see belt driven fans in some pics (383 or 440). Yes, it’s REALLY tight. LOL
Spend a moment looking at the FABO pics thread for this swap. You’ll see belt driven fans in some pics (383 or 440). Yes, it’s REALLY tight. LOL
demon seed
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(Quote: You’ll see belt driven fans in some pics.) and no it's not that tight with the 383 and a 3 core rad.
roadrunnerh
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Very nice!
moparbuilder
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wow thanks so much for the input. i have alot of experience building cars just not mopars this is my first. here is a couple pics of some cars i have built just so you know were my knowledge base is. and i definately going with fan shroud and electric fan. and mini starter.
first pic 33 speedstar coupe built exclusively here at home.
1926 2 dr sedan hand fabbed at home too.
(car on the right)
first pic 33 speedstar coupe built exclusively here at home.
1926 2 dr sedan hand fabbed at home too.
(car on the right)
451swinger
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You can use B body HP exhaust manifolds as well (no milling) if you're not going for max output. Check out BigBlockDart.com tech pages for some good info.
moparbuilder
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Question just ordered a disk break conversion for front of my scamp. I know you have to change upper arms to b body . The kit uses b body spindles . Do I need to change bottom ball joints ? I'm going to replace them anyway. Thanks
moparbuilder
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Here are some updated pictures. It's ready to start just have a fe leaks to deal with. (power sterling pump, and trans dipstick tube). So here is the run down
1972 Plymouth Scamp 2Dr.
1977 440
1968 727
1997 8.8 posi with 3.80 gears shortened 3" disk break
New mopar performance rear leaf springs poly bushings
1.03 pro touring torsion bars
Front disk break conversion
Custom made adjustable front strut rods and modified a-arms
Custom tie rod sleeves
Shumacher headers and summit 2.5" exhaust with x-pipe
15" police talley wheel with kumho 225/60-15 tires
1972 Plymouth Scamp 2Dr.
1977 440
1968 727
1997 8.8 posi with 3.80 gears shortened 3" disk break
New mopar performance rear leaf springs poly bushings
1.03 pro touring torsion bars
Front disk break conversion
Custom made adjustable front strut rods and modified a-arms
Custom tie rod sleeves
Shumacher headers and summit 2.5" exhaust with x-pipe
15" police talley wheel with kumho 225/60-15 tires
moparbuilder
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more pictures
moparbuilder
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used mini starter . and not so far
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txstang84
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Nice build...you're making me think harder about dropping in a big block...dammit. That's a pretty swank little exhaust outlet there-interesting!
moparbuilder
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thx i like making things different!!
txstang84
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Ok, so what radiator did you go with there? I recently sourced a 383 and I'll be working that way eventually.
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