slant 6 oil filter REMOVAL

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I am trying to remove the oil filter on my recently purchased 64 dart, and either I am turning it the wrong way, or it is on there WAY too tight. Did Chrysler have another reverse thread thing there? Any tips on getting this off, right now I've got a filter wrench on it, and am thinking about adding the pipe for more leverage. Any advise would be appreciated, thanks Mike Stillwater,MN
 
Spin it off counter clock wise. Be careful to not crush the filter. If you do crush it then there are tricks to still get it off.
 
I had a hell of a time getting mine off when I first got it used strap wrench and 1/2 in drive ratchet I put the strap at the base of the filter and put a lot of muscle into it . Finally broke lose.

M. Moe
 
Get your oil filter wrench on it as CLOSE to the bottom where the filter meets the filter adapter as possible I mean RIGHT down on it. Then pull on it counter clockwise like a big dog. Bein that far down you won't crush the filter because you have the support of the bottom cap of the filter and the crimp.
 
Get a oil filter cap wrench...looks like a big socket that goes on the end of you filter and has a 3/8" drive for a rachet. You'll need a "c" size to fit the 8a filter. Makes it alot easier than a strap wrench.
 
mrhollywood said:
Get a oil filter cap wrench...looks like a big socket that goes on the end of you filter and has a 3/8" drive for a rachet. You'll need a "c" size to fit the 8a filter. Makes it alot easier than a strap wrench.
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bingo...

and who cares if you crush it... your changing it... put a screw driver thru it if you have to
 
Cap-type filter wrenches work only on filters that have flats at the top of the can. Round-top filters won't be budged. A good quality strap-type filter wrench with a double-articulated, long handle has always eventually worked for me, though sometimes it takes cursing and swearing and multiple attempts.
 
When you do finally extricate it, make sure the gasket doesn't stay stuck to the engine. It is quite likely the gasket has bonded to the filter housing, and that is what you are fighting. Putting a new filter on over the old gasket can lead to a massive, unexpected oil leak. Good luck.
 
And don't fail to smear a thumbful of clean oil on the gasket of the new filter before installing it—and remember not to use a Fram filter!
 
I have a filter wrench that looks like a big pair of channellocks that works good on mine including heavy equipment.
 
Same as unscrewing a peanut butter jar lid, except you are looking up. I have had to crush an oil filter with the strap wrench. That just gives a better grab by the wrench. Some punch a long screwdriver thru the case. Maybe you could tap on the base, like moms do with a knife on a jar lid. If the whole housing peels off, don't fret. I recall there is a socket tool to grab the holes in the base. My dad once took the oil pump off w/ filter to use a vise at work, but he didn't know the above tricks. When you put the new filter on, lube the rubber gasket with oil and follow the tightening directions.
 
cudajim said:
What don't you like about Fram filters?
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Fram filters have been known to be of inferior quality for years. The simplest reason would be the leaking anti drainback valve that allows oil to drain out of the upside slant oil filter and back into the pan. This means that everytime the car sits for a couple days the oil filter will empty itself and will need to refill before it has oil pressure.

I've heard WIX is a good choice, but that may have changed in recent years.
 
cudajim said:
What don't you like about Fram filters?
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Fram is poor-quality garbage. Wix is reliable. Purolator's reliable. Fleetguard is super-duper premium.

Some very detailed and somewhat dated info here.

Whatever brand you pick, use the long filter, not the shorty. Examples of the long filter are Purolator L30001 or PureOne P30001, Wix 51515 (NAPA Gold 1515), Motorcraft FL-1A, Fleetguard LF-3487.
 
slantsixdan said:
And don't fail to smear a thumbful of clean oil on the gasket of the new filter before installing it—and remember not to use a Fram filter!
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Not a Fram? I have had good luck with your recommendations so far. What is your filter of choice?
 
slantsixdan said:
And don't fail to smear a thumbful of clean oil on the gasket of the new filter before installing it—and remember not to use a Fram filter!
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Dan,
You are misinformed. Please take the time to learn about filters.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecpkvsnKKNg"]What is inside an Oil Filter. How do they work? FRAM Filters - YouTube[/ame]
 
slantsixdan said:
And don't fail to smear a thumbful of clean oil on the gasket of the new filter before installing it—and remember not to use a Fram filter!
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFVNESOwLyk"]The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration - YouTube[/ame] :D
 
slantsixdan said:
Fram is poor-quality garbage. Wix is reliable. Purolator's reliable. Fleetguard is super-duper premium.

Some very detailed and somewhat dated info here.

Whatever brand you pick, use the long filter, not the shorty. Examples of the long filter are Purolator L30001 or PureOne P30001, Wix 51515 (NAPA Gold 1515), Motorcraft FL-1A, Fleetguard LF-3487.
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Dan,
Why are you posting this link? There is not one shred of filter testing involved in it. It is 20 years old and has zero science or engineering involved. FRAM stands behind every single filter it makes (200 million filters a year). If a FRAM filter ever caused damage to your vehicle, we would stand behind it 110%. FRAM Filtration makes filters for Mopar, Honda, Subaru, Mack trucks, Mobil 1, K+N and many many others. We test all our filters to ISO 4548-12 specifications and publish the results right on the can. If you are worried about fiber end caps, please watch this video to learn the truth
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFVNESOwLyk"]The truth about oil filter end caps FRAM Filtration - YouTube[/ame]

I have published many filtration and ignition videos on my youtube channel, youtube.com/cadzillals6. Take the time to learn about filtration instead of rehashing internet tribal knowledge.
Thank you.
Motorking:D
 
motorking said:
Dan, You are misinformed.
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Um, no. Y'see, there's a difference between information and propaganda. This what you've posted is propaganda.

Even a casual comparison by someone who knows nothing about oil filtration clearly shows Fram filters to be physically inferior to several other easily-available brands, so given the choice between "probably adequate" and "better than that" for about the same price, I'll take "better than that". The Wix people did a smart thing: they provided a counter display for jobbers, with a dissected Fram filter next to a dissected Wix filter. Perhaps you've seen this comparison yourself; it makes it very easy to see and compare the Fram's thin metal, flimsy antidrainback and overpressure relief valves, small and cheap filter element, and other design "features" to the much more reasonably built Wix. It's a very simple choice, made even simpler by direct evidence of Fram filters' functional inferiority (rod knock and slow oil light shutoff on startup with Fram filters in base-down applications; no knock and quick light shutoff with a better filter).

Surely you can understand why this little video parade of yours fails: It's in the interest of the Fram people (apparently including you) to present a rosy picture or a slick video of the products they/you make, so they/you put out propaganda, also known as advertising. No sale (no matter how many times you post it); I'll continue to base my opinions, preferences, and recommendations on firsthand observation/comparison and on information from people who don't make or sell any brand of filters.

And there ain't nothin' you can do about it, slick video or no slick video.
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And make sure the old filter gasket is not stuck to your engine when you put on the new filter !!
 
StrokerScamp said:
Fram sucks.
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But…wait…but…no…but…slick video and therefore Fram rules! :lol:


Ford sucks.
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Yeah, generally I agree with you, though at the moment they seem to be putting out some really good cars. So does almost every other automaker; it's a really good time to be shopping for a new car.

Back to the topic at hand, though, Ford has over the years put out a respectable aftermarket (Motorcraft) oil filter, but…gosh, I donno, though…no slick video trying to con me into buying it…
 
Do I need to get my "Hurt feelings report" ready?

Good morning Dan.
We had a conversation that went kinda like that awhile back about LED's remember?
 
................My 69 super bee with 383 pushed the can right off the fram filter on a cold start......no other brand b4 or after has done that......kim..........
 
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