Yeah ive seen them ebay cars.....wasted 500 dollars and a day a work on the last one I tried to buy off ebay....TOtally misrepresented. My last dealing on E junk. Im a realist, not sure about other areas,in my area its either 20 footers at 10k to 16k...or you gotta spend high teens to 20 30k to get quality. Everything looks good in pics, ebay, mecum. (been there) ect.....and Ive had multiple guys on the car at this money...problem is distance bottom line. And none of them are whining about the money. Shipping is the killer on the car so far.