i didnt realize that doing a motor swap in a car was any type of sacrilege i was just trying to work with what i have to save some money... the reason i am asking for measurements is because i like to plan out everything before i start a project and the car is parked in my container. i figured that someone on here must have done a ls swap cause they are very common swaps for everything now. i didnt mean to offend anyone i didnt know that everyone on here is so mopar strong. When i went to do the fox body everyone on the mustang sites were very helpful.