thanks for the tips guys..i can and have been welding for some time..went to school for it back in the late 90's lol..just never welded with gas...had a nice (fat butt) lady teacher learned stick from her and learned mig by doing it...i have heard that gas welding is easy but i will see.:Dwhat do you guys use as a start point on the reg..? or is it a fill for the way you weld??? thanks mike :prayer::prayer::prayer: