true but i would be more likely to join if its in the same family as FABO.....basically if Mr. Joey is the administrator then it is operated like FABO which will make it the best one on the web.......bcoz he has proven with FABO that he knows how to manage a site effectively.........bcoz believe it or not, even a forum on the web needs to be managed like a business ........most other forums out there are "buddy get togethers" the owner/ administrator is part of the "clique" so like that, they are often not friendly to new comers and dispute resolution is partial and bias....sites like that are also not as sucessful as well managed sites with 25,000+ members like FABO. IMHO