Muslca
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Mad Dart........Done.... 
paint job price
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ESP47
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Unless you have a show car/trailer queen, I don't see the point in spending over $3k for a paint job. It's just going to get chipped and dinged as you drive it. I'd rather just drive my car comfortably than always be worried about every little pebble that bounces off the road and hits it.
1968FormulaS340
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If the shop did all the work, the shop should warranty the work.
If the customer insists on doing the prep work, it's impossible for the shop to warranty anything.
X2, on this.No way ,will a shop warranty unknown prep work underneath primer.
Mad Dart
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1968FormulaS340
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Even primer that someone else has sprayed can turn into a disaster. A butt load of people spray with inadequate water filtration.
Water in the line gets in the primer, cover that with base and clear.....
The first day out in the sun and the paint lifts, looks like hundreds or thousands of bubbles.
We offer a lifetime warranty on all repairs including complete refinishing.
The only way we can offer that is to do it 110% correctly from top to bottom.
Mad Dart
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I can do most anything with my hands, build whatever, fix whatever. 1 thing I will not try to take on is Body Work and Paint. Let them do their job and I will go do my job so I can pay them when they are done. It would totally suck to do all the body work and they start to spray and the chitt starts lifting and bubbling. Oh damn that would be a real bad day no doubt.:banghead:
MoparMagic1992
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Looks like i'll be painting my car(s) myself
i cant justify in my head spending 15k or even 5k, and the most practice you have the better you'll get. Also will make you more 'desirable' in given fields of work
i cant justify in my head spending 15k or even 5k, and the most practice you have the better you'll get. Also will make you more 'desirable' in given fields of work
swisswill
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Sure why not... Have to learn sometime, especially if I'm doing more than one of these. Just cuz it's your first doesn't mean it has to suck. Could be great. Take your time, shoot some test panels, study, study, study, sand, sand, sand, and shoot, then sand some more.
And it may not be the best financial advice, but hanging out on sites like this tends to be worse I would bet.
Purple Haze
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This cost 3K after body work primer and I supplied the PPG base clear.
I don't do paint and body work, but I do work in the restoration biz. Any experienced paint guys kinda chuckling right now? I've seen some great home brew paint jobs and I've seen some not so great ones. I won't go the 10K route on the paint for my car, but that's because I plan on driving the wheels off of it as often as possible. It will, however, drive me nuts that it's not "perfect". That's my own personal hell.
One thing to consider if you are painting at home is the local regulations. I've been trying to find the news article from my area where a guy was doing his own paint work in his garage. Seems that he pissed off a neighbor who called the cops, EPA and CARB. Got fined and all his schtuff siezed. Something to think about.
One thing to consider if you are painting at home is the local regulations. I've been trying to find the news article from my area where a guy was doing his own paint work in his garage. Seems that he pissed off a neighbor who called the cops, EPA and CARB. Got fined and all his schtuff siezed. Something to think about.
I meant no offense Will, but not everybody has your skill set. I give you a lot of credit, don't know if I would take on a project as big as yours. Paint and body is near and dear to me, and it kills me to see so many nice cars at shows with such lousy paint. I know it's a lot of money to do it right, and it absolutely makes no sense to put a 10k paint job on a 5k car, but on a 100k car (like your's will be by the time your done) it deserves a high end job. JMO
1968FormulaS340
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Find your local community college with an autobody program. Normally they offer a weekend restoration or hot rod class.
These class have experienced bodymen and painters that will help guide you.
And here is the sweetest part. These classes only cost a few hundred per term (3 months).
But this is what you get......
Access to a real paint booth for 3 months.
Access to their paint system and mixing system (may not sound like much but you can buy your paint by the mixxed ounce instead of paying full retail for a quart, gallon or whatever).
Just the use of a booth, makes this a worth it.
These class have experienced bodymen and painters that will help guide you.
And here is the sweetest part. These classes only cost a few hundred per term (3 months).
But this is what you get......
Access to a real paint booth for 3 months.
Access to their paint system and mixing system (may not sound like much but you can buy your paint by the mixxed ounce instead of paying full retail for a quart, gallon or whatever).
Just the use of a booth, makes this a worth it.
HemiMark
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Mad Dart........Done....
I'm surprised Mad Dart hasn't insisted you change your avatar also.....:walk:
swisswill
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No offense taken Tin. Skill set is something generally acquired, earned, not necessarily given. Paint and body is tough, but like anything else, given enough time, patience, research, study, questions, and practice, can be learned. I've done many things over on my project already because I've learned more and realized something is better. I'm sure I have a lot more of that to come. Maybe when my 100k (maybe 100k+) project is ready for that high end job, I'll send it out to MA...
rayer:No offense taken Tin. Skill set is something generally acquired, earned, not necessarily given. Paint and body is tough, but like anything else, given enough time, patience, research, study, questions, and practice, can be learned. I've done many things over on my project already because I've learned more and realized something is better. I'm sure I have a lot more of that to come. Maybe when my 100k (maybe 100k+) project is ready for that high end job, I'll send it out to MA...
Agreed. I too am still learning how to do bodywork the right way. With all the new materials on the market today, it keeps changing.
AdamR
Big Member
Its a fast changing industry. The "correct way" to do it today will be wrong tomorrow.
dream65cuda
Active Member
If you go to paint for cars .com basecoat&clearcoat are cheep 178.00 1gal base 1gal clear 1qt hardner 2 qts reduser good paint looks good on my cuda
BillGrissom
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Depends on what you want to do with the car. Any paint will chip if a rock hits it, so maybe not smart to spend $10K on a car you plan to drive a lot. If you do spend >$10K, you will surely be motivated to trailer queen it. You can do a decent paint job for <$100 in tools and materials if you want. 69chargeryeehaa started something big in this post: http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2338616
DesertRat
Leading edge boomer
Paid $5000 to have my Comet painted and I cut & buffed myself. Decided to paint my Barracuda myself, used PPG Concept and all pro supplies, took over a year and I did all the body work and painting myself. Not perfect but great driver quality which is good as I plan on driving the wheels off this car.
AdamR
Big Member
what did you have invested in supplies ?
DesertRat
Leading edge boomer
I am fortunate to have a good friend in the paint supply business so I got all my supplies at volume bodyshop prices but it was over $1,500 and under $2,000. Cant tell for sure and I dont add up the invoices anymore
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gtmopar
Phuckin A!
The problem in California is the EPA is only allowing water based paints to be sold in most counties. I've tried the water based paints and I don't care for them much. Call me old school but I had the solvent based paints down. With the water based stuff you have to have a constant flow of air drying the base. If you have an updated booth with the cross flow I guess they are ok. They do cover nice I must admit but give me the good old nasty stuff that will kill you quick and I will lay some **** down! For all you guys trying to tackle paint and body on your own, good for you. Like someone said, most local junior colleges have autobody and paint classes that have to have the latest equiptment and is a great way to restore your car basically just coming out of pocket materials and tuition. Some body shops will rent their booths out for 100-300 bucks a day.
Muslca
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HemiMark: I'll do it before he ask........sorry it turned out crooked too
68gtxman
I used to reMember
My first paint job was spraying custom stripes over shop applied $1,000 Imron paint job (way back in 1984) on my 1972 Chevelle. My heart sure was thumping as I did it because everyone told me that I would be screwing it up! My paint job was almost perfect, and sure was complicated (three colors in a multi crossing pattern). Most people who saw it loved it, though they thought it was done with vinyl (you could see and feel the edges of the stripes) because I was told I couldn't clear coat it past 30 days of curing. I still loved it. Best thing to do is try it yourself and be proud when you say "I did it myself" and laugh when they don't believe you!
Good luck!
Good luck!
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