What Frankie said! NASCAR is a driver popularity race now not brand popularity any more....except at brand-specific forums. I have paid more attention to NASCAR in the last few weeks hoping to see Brad K. win for Dodge since they are leaving Sprint cup. Years ago people didn't care who won as long as they drove your favorite brand. Now you see Dodges and Fords with #24,14,88,20....etc. stickers on them. It's bad when you see a guy at a race wearing a #24 t-shirt fighting with a guy wearing a #88 shirt...they used to be on the same side! Not to mention the identity of the cars is gone and that Toyota has ruined it for some of us older farts.