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Dago Red said:
Read this and check back in.

It's sometime hard to fathom just how impressive these cars are.

They're basically allowed headers, cam and intake in Super Stock.
Stock allows just the cam and headers.
The rest is the skill (and daring) of the owner/builder.

Matt's my hero: all 273 cubic inches.
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and alot of money....a competitive Super Stock or Stock engine is not CHEAP
 
70aarcuda said:
and alot of money....a competitive Super Stock or Stock engine is not CHEAP
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Just throwing a mittful of money around doesn't guarantee fast.

Stock and Super Stock is full of regular 40 hour a week working stiffs who have worked long and hard to be competitive. Yes, they're more expensive than a bracket buggy, but while a racer can be rightly proud of his 11 second 2800 lb 402 stroker, an 8.5:1 318 in a 3400 lb car that runs 10.0's is nonetheless impressive. Money or no money, getting those kinds of times out of these combinations, given the restrictive nature of the classes, should be admired.

You make it sound like class racers need to apologize for being successful.
 
Dago Red said:
Just throwing a mittful of money around doesn't guarantee fast.

Stock and Super Stock is full of regular 40 hour a week working stiffs who have worked long and hard to be competitive. Yes, they're more expensive than a bracket buggy, but while a racer can be rightly proud of his 11 second 2800 lb 402 stroker, an 8.5:1 318 in a 3400 lb car that runs 10.0's is nonetheless impressive. Money or no money, getting those kinds of times out of these combinations, given the restrictive nature of the classes, should be admired.

You make it sound like class racers need to apologize for being successful.
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you took a simple statement about how much it costs to get "stock" parts to work together and run well WAYYY out of context
 
Dago Red said:
Just throwing a mittful of money around doesn't guarantee fast.

Stock and Super Stock is full of regular 40 hour a week working stiffs who have worked long and hard to be competitive. Yes, they're more expensive than a bracket buggy, but while a racer can be rightly proud of his 11 second 2800 lb 402 stroker, an 8.5:1 318 in a 3400 lb car that runs 10.0's is nonetheless impressive. Money or no money, getting those kinds of times out of these combinations, given the restrictive nature of the classes, should be admired.

You make it sound like class racers need to apologize for being successful.
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Yes I agree with you. It takes a long time to design build dyno, redesign, go back to the dyno etc etc. hats off to the forgotten hours just massaging the whole car to work that well.
You forgot one, of the many, things that you did not mention, what is the duration of the camshaft?

A very good friend of mine who has raced stock/ super stock for a long time onced told me that it's not a question of if your " bending " the rules it's that you haven't been caught yet!

Stock/super stock is not for the faint of heart. And no you cannot do it on a limited budget, but are they impressive to watch!


They are not as stock as they are made out to be either
 
Dago Red said:
Just throwing a mittful of money around doesn't guarantee fast.

Stock and Super Stock is full of regular 40 hour a week working stiffs who have worked long and hard to be competitive. Yes, they're more expensive than a bracket buggy, but while a racer can be rightly proud of his 11 second 2800 lb 402 stroker, an 8.5:1 318 in a 3400 lb car that runs 10.0's is nonetheless impressive. Money or no money, getting those kinds of times out of these combinations, given the restrictive nature of the classes, should be admired.

You make it sound like class racers need to apologize for being successful.
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Never said they were not a lot of work just said they are not cheap...

SS can run any intake manifold (ported)....roller rockers..ported heads, roller cams, has to run OEM carb, after market rods and lightweight pistons...

very good friend of mine has a U/S 65 Belvedere 273 4 speed...usually holds the nhra national record with it...he build a K/SA 65 273 Dart but wrecked it at its first National Event.
 
Well gang, I'm content to steer this thing back into the fun groove. I appreciate everyones take on the subject. No need to bump up our blood pressures. After all, we've got work and politics to do that for us.

I sure would have liked to have seen that 65 before it got dinged. Paul always has really nice cars.
 
One of my friends now races SS, but has held records in D,E,F, and M Stock with his Mustang. It is unbelievably competitive, and much more expensive than a braket or street build. Expensive if dyno time and personal time. Down to the SF flow bench he bought for his personal garage. I'll add the only reason he and I got close and he would talk theory with me is I was not a class racer, and didn't drive a Ford, or run in those circles. Otherwise we'd only have been able to talk about the weather...lol. He told me so...
 
yes secretive it is,but man i love watching stock and super stock cars blasting out of the hole.nothing like small blocks reving 9000 ripping it up....
 
bad440 - Yup... He would dump the clutch at 6800 rpm, shift at 8200. 351 Cleavland, hydraulic cam engine, factory iron intake, carb, and as cast heads.
 
I personally prefer the Stock/Super Stock/ street machine classes,compared to the more expensive classes.My shop teacher assembled,a 396/325 67 Camaro for S/S racing.Was kind of mind blowing. The tweaking and massaging of stock parts,is a true art.
 
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