Have you ever just asked if its for sale??

I don't go on someones property, but if I see them outside I will stop and ask. If they say no I don't push but sometimes they will talk about the car and even show it to you. Don't go there and mess with any ones car unless you want an *** full of buckshot. If they talk to you so a little respect and don't lowball them. Sometimes you can become friends with them and they might decide to sell. RESPECT is what its about.