Remote Start Units

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I know it's not mopar, but a friend want's me to install a remote start kit on her 2009 Nissan Murano. Anyone have knowledge about this? Thanks.
 
I have never done one my self but I had a compant put one on my girls 2001 ranger and it didnt work from the get go, then they fixed it and then it quit working again.... Then the place went out of buisness.... So I have to take it to a different location to have it looked at....
 
I repair more electrical problems caused by alarms & remote starts than probably any other causes. Unless Nissan offers a direct plug in kit specifically for that model I'd pass on it.
 
If you have a manual, have a remote start and opt to leave the car in gear (as opposed to using the e brake like the factory intended) your an idiot. Hell even without the remote start its still stupid.
 
i leave my lil nissan commuter in gear when i park it all the time. i figure if the e-brake ever let go then it might slow it down. my car also has a switch so you have to depress the clutch petal to start it. no matter if its in gear or neutral.

that and on almost all new cars you have to have it in park or neutral to pull the key out of the ignition.
 
If you have a manual, have a remote start and opt to leave the car in gear (as opposed to using the e brake like the factory intended) your an idiot. Hell even without the remote start its still stupid.

So, I guess we are all idiots? In this part of the country I'd wager MOST people do not use parking brakes, especially in winter. On most of the old girls which this forum "is about" a parking brake will NOT safely hold a car on a hill.

My favorite unsafe thing to point out is the old Ford/ Lincolns which had the vacuum can which automatically released the parking brake!!!!

There are PLENTY of reports of accidents (and even deaths) with these remote start units.
 
I remember starting my truck while it was at a friends shop in NY from my cell phone when I was in Arizona back in 93.
 
You cant order a car from the dealer with remote start and a standard trans because of the liability of it going into gear. Also on the factory models (aswell as aftermarket in sure) its wired through the park/neautral switch so that if it comes out of park without the key in the ignition, it shuts off (theft protection). Also in the system are safeguards against things like that. The factory ones are typically limited to three remote starts per key cycle, which meas that in the winter when people want to make their cars toasty without going outside they can only remote start the car three times before they have to put the key in and turn it on to reset and then get three more. They aso have timers and such built in usually around 15 minutes i think per start. Their a good system if done right. I wouldnt trust a cheapie though
 
I put one on my 98 chevy, followed the directions to a T and never had a single issue with it. It was bull dog brand i think.
I'd never bat an eye at installing another one.
 
Originally Posted by 1970Duster
If you have a manual, have a remote start and opt to leave the car in gear (as opposed to using the "e" brake like the factory intended) your an idiot. Hell even without the remote start its still stupid...

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Until recenly, emergency brakes, ( a mechanical secondary means of halting the vehicle) typically don't work effectively in reverse..

Ever back out the driveway, put it in forward, and go no-where because the Emergency brake is still on.. It's because of how the emergency cables apply pressure to the shoes..

Recently new cars have been putting one of the Emergency brake cables into the rear of the backing plates, to apply pressure when the wheels rotate backwards..

They became "PARK" brakes,, when GM couldn't fit the word "EMERGENCY" on that little pedal on the floor... ( maybe not GM)

And cranking on the energency when the brakes are hot... you're asking for oval drums..

And about remote starters,.. I gotta ask,, what about the chip in the key, do you have to leave a key in the vehicle, (not nec in the ignition), to get it to start ??
 
I have had 4 maybe 5 in the past and still have one on my 09 Journey, and one on my KIA , and never had an issue , they are almost a must where i come from , got to live here to get it.
 
I've lived without this sort of frippery for 60 years now and can probably hang on for the few years I have left. My question is why do you want to spend good money to make things easier for car thieves?????
 
I'm sorry, I didn't want to start a firestorm or call anyone an idiot. I just wanted some opinions on remote start kits. If anyone is offended, it was unintentional on my part! Sheesh!!!
 
A few thoughts on this.

When I lived in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, (one of the coldest climates actually inhabited), tens of thousands of these remote starters were installed. They were almost a necessity. Not once can I remember any issues with these devices contributing to a runaway vehicle, or a car theft, (Winnipeg also had a very high car theft rate, usually GM's with the steering lock broken out). There were plenty of vehicle fires due to poor installation practice and many vehicle failures traced to installation of the remote starter. I had a Lincoln LS that actually had an OEM Ford remote start as part of the remote vehicle entry package. Properly installed, there are no safety concerns with this type of device. AT applications are routed thru the neutral safety switch and manual transmissions are interlocked with the parking brake.

Installation of these devices is a PITA. Carbed applications are out of the question and you really need to know what you are doing when tying into EFI systems. Usually the game is your friends want to save a couple bucks on the installation and you are stuck with several hours of work to save them $100. Coded keys just add to the nightmare. It all can be done, but highly labour intensive. Pay the shop to do it, but insist on inspecting their work before they button everything up.
 
I personally think these should be illegal. You might consider the liability. What would happen if this thing should ever go into gear, or even (stick) just roll off somewhere?

They are designed to not start in gear. They never used to work on sticks, but they make them now.

I wouldn't want to do it, but one of my techs, who never installed one before, put one in his mom's car. He was done in 30 minutes, but she just wanted the start function. She wanted to use her factory keyfob for the lock and unlock functions. Even he was surprised at how easy it was. Of course, we have access to wiring diagrams here at work.
 
Originally Posted by 1970Duster
If you have a manual, have a remote start and opt to leave the car in gear (as opposed to using the "e" brake like the factory intended) your an idiot. Hell even without the remote start its still stupid...

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Until recenly, emergency brakes, ( a mechanical secondary means of halting the vehicle) typically don't work effectively in reverse..

Ever back out the driveway, put it in forward, and go no-where because the Emergency brake is still on.. It's because of how the emergency cables apply pressure to the shoes..

Recently new cars have been putting one of the Emergency brake cables into the rear of the backing plates, to apply pressure when the wheels rotate backwards..

They became "PARK" brakes,, when GM couldn't fit the word "EMERGENCY" on that little pedal on the floor... ( maybe not GM)

And cranking on the energency when the brakes are hot... you're asking for oval drums..

And about remote starters,.. I gotta ask,, what about the chip in the key, do you have to leave a key in the vehicle, (not nec in the ignition), to get it to start ??


cars with a chip in the key use a bypass module, Chrysler used the transponder bypass in the Grey key from 2001-2006, and PATS system after that

every manufacturer use a different system, and there not included with the remote start, they have to be bought separate
 
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