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69 340 727 trans. What would be the stahl speed of a stock unit.
Also the same thing what stahl speed for a 72 727 340 trans <stock>
 
If you have a work tach it will give you a good guess at we're yours is. That said in pure stock original, 15-1600 maybe be my guess.
 
This is a chart from a torque flight book I have
 

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If the convertor is in the car try this. Driving along in high gear at idle punch the gas and immediately let off the gas. On the way back down your tach will stop for a second or two and the flash point of your convertor. Try this method and see what you get .
 
Stahl speed? You of course mean S T A L L speed; the RPM at which
the torque converter would "stall" and cease to slip.

Stahl was a company started by Jere Stahl and made high $ headers
and special tall front drag tires.

This is a common misconception as I don't think you can pick up an
Auto-Trader without seeing an add for a car with a "stahl converter".
 
Stahl speed? You of course mean S T A L L speed; the RPM at which
the torque converter would "stall" and cease to slip.

Stahl was a company started by Jere Stahl and made high $ headers
and special tall front drag tires.

This is a common misconception as I don't think you can pick up an
Auto-Trader without seeing an add for a car with a "stahl converter".

X2, Stall refering to the stator stopping at max torque multiplication.
 
I have a 340 w 904 in a 73 Scamp. The tires start to spin right at 13-1400 RPM. I was told when I bough the car it had a 3-3.5K Converter in it...... Long distance buying at its finest.... LOL
 
We can power lock this 340 and cant turn the wheels over with 323 rear, what stall should we be using?
 
Don't anyone have a stock setup in there car to determine this? If some one has a stock 340engine and 340 trans. Please go out and see what it stalls at.
 
Don't anyone have a stock setup in there car to determine this? If some one has a stock 340engine and 340 trans. Please go out and see what it stalls at.

It will be under 2K for sure. Why is it such a big fuss anyway? Stock engine stock converter. If someones car can not light off the tires with this set up the engine is sick.... IE Tuned incorrectly or the like.
 
Stahl speed? You of course mean S T A L L speed; the RPM at which
the torque converter would "stall" and cease to slip.

Stahl was a company started by Jere Stahl and made high $ headers
and special tall front drag tires.

This is a common misconception as I don't think you can pick up an
Auto-Trader without seeing an add for a car with a "stahl converter".


wise azz
 
Stahl speed? You of course mean S T A L L speed; the RPM at which
the torque converter would "stall" and cease to slip.

Stahl was a company started by Jere Stahl and made high $ headers
and special tall front drag tires.

This is a common misconception as I don't think you can pick up an
Auto-Trader without seeing an add for a car with a "stahl converter".

I beleive you're wrong. If you have a Mopar with a posi then it also has a stahl converter LOL.
 
my stock was 1400-1500, couldn't even turn over the 323 SG, that all changed after I got some great advise from this great site, PTC 3500, its stupid now. Good luck
 
My trans is getting a TF-2 put in as I type. My Tranny guy said the vert im using is a stock 340 original for the 727 - has the small vert with big gear ring. He says it stall is as high as 2000 on these.. I suspect not 2k but close.

He is going to setup the shiftkit and test that out then we will decide if a higher stall is needed.

As it is right now I can turn the 3.23 no problem..

We'll see what happens
 
I had a 72 340 Cuda back in the early 80's. It was bone stock and had 52,000 miles on it and ran great and if I remember right it would stall right about 1800-1900 rpm before the tires started to spin. As MadDart said if it won't turn the tires over the tune should be checked because my Cuda would roast the tires easily and it had a 3.23 gear with sure-grip. Engine torque output has a huge effect on how much a converter will stall. Traction can also make it seem to stall more or less depending on if the traction is good or bad.
 
I'm surprised at the responses. Tracy as usual is right on. Yall seem to forget, Mopar converters are higher stall speeds than their brand X counterparts. A stock grandma 318 converter stall speed is generally around 1500-1700. The factory high stall (which would have been behind any 340) was right around 1000 rpm more than that. That doesn't mean you're gonna get a 2500-2700 flash RPM. Many things have to be considered like vehicle weight, gear ratio, engine torque output, tire size and on and on. But the spec DuBob shows in the book up there ^^^ is dead nuts RIGHT. The 340 never had a 904 behind it, so that's comparing apples to oranges. The 727 takes more torque to drive, so there goes a few more RPM of stall. The 904 will naturally stall lower behind anything (all other things equal) since it is much lighter and has less reciprocating mass. Generally, the stock 340 A body cars would stall somewhere around 2K give or take. The B bodies a bit higher. Again though, all dependant upon which gear ratio the car had tire size.....blah blah blah.

About the OP's question. It really cannot be answered very accurately, since he left out some key ingredients. Such as, what is the engine transmission combo in? Gear ratio? Rear tire size? Vehicle weight? All of that and then some will have an effect on the final stall or lockup of the converter.

Lastly, there is really only one way to do this and get it pretty accurate and you have to have a manual valve body to do it. You need to drop it into high gear, hold your foot firmly on the brake and ease the gas pedal down until the RPM on the tach stops climbing. THERE is your stall or lockup RPM. Any other method and you leave some guess room.
 
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