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thanks mate
Lets see your car in action!
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thanks mate
dusterdragracer
Drag Racer
@wheelsup73...... I thought you liked Phoniex tires, not Hoosiers? Nice car and camera work.
I love Sonoma, I lived in Santa Rosa 25 years, owned Vans LTD van shop on SR ave.Gave up Sears point for Spokane Co. Raceway.
I love Sonoma, I lived in Santa Rosa 25 years, owned Vans LTD van shop on SR ave.Gave up Sears point for Spokane Co. Raceway.
wheelsup73
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Hi Chris, We do love the Phoenix tires . A couple years ago my dart started spinning the tires so I ordered a new set of Phoenix tires and when we went to the track it would not hook at all on the new tires. I called phoenix and they sent me another set. Went back to the track and it still would not hookup so I thought Phoenix had a bad batch of tires and I bought Hoosiers. We went back out to the track on the hoosiers and they spun worst that the Phoenix tires. So I ordered a set of M/Ts and put them on and went to the track and they also spun bad. So now we realize that the Dart had issues. I had a good talk with Lisa's dad (who builds chassis and hot rods and also raced Comp Eliminator for many years) and we watched some video and it looked like the side walls on the tires were being slamed into the ground at the hit and wadding up bad. So he suggested we put tubes and rim screws and go try it again. we went back out to the track with the M/t on with tubes and screws and the car went right on the bumper so problem solved. Since then I have worn out the Phoenix tires and the M./T tires. So I have had a 600.00 set of Hoosiers in my garage and decided to try them again with the tubes and screws and they have hooked hard 6 passes in a row so far.
Take care, Steve
ironside
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GoPro in my 68 4 speed barracuda. Ran a new PB at US131, 9.93, with it last weekend.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?featur...top_uri=/watch?v=imAv4xFWnY4&feature=youtu.be
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?featur...top_uri=/watch?v=imAv4xFWnY4&feature=youtu.be
dusterdragracer
Drag Racer
Thanks Steve, that clears that up.
Great, I dumped my tubes from my Hoosiers. I will see this weekend.
I was thinking of switching tires because of clearance, but I got that resolved. But I think I will go to phoniex next year. These tires have a year in them left.
I always ran Hoosiers, they were the only thing that worked at our track in the past. But we have cement now, thanks to Bucky Austin!
I was told a lot of guys are not running screws in Stock, and up classes. I almost didn't screw my wheels but decided to any way.
I didn't run the tubes because I would have to drill the wheels (valve hole) when I switched wheels, and my buddy doesn't run tubes and likes it (tube chassis cuda S/G car).
It is also lighter.I had troubles balancing with tubes, the tires balanced better with out tubes.
Thanks for the info,If I have troubles, the tubes are going back in.
Man experience means a lot.
Your car is bad 'A'.
Thanks Again Steve
Great, I dumped my tubes from my Hoosiers. I will see this weekend.
I was thinking of switching tires because of clearance, but I got that resolved. But I think I will go to phoniex next year. These tires have a year in them left.
I always ran Hoosiers, they were the only thing that worked at our track in the past. But we have cement now, thanks to Bucky Austin!
I was told a lot of guys are not running screws in Stock, and up classes. I almost didn't screw my wheels but decided to any way.
I didn't run the tubes because I would have to drill the wheels (valve hole) when I switched wheels, and my buddy doesn't run tubes and likes it (tube chassis cuda S/G car).
It is also lighter.I had troubles balancing with tubes, the tires balanced better with out tubes.
Thanks for the info,If I have troubles, the tubes are going back in.
Man experience means a lot.
Your car is bad 'A'.
Thanks Again Steve
1970 La
Well-Known Member
Is it the white paint that does these big wheelies or am I low on Hp lol!
dusterdragracer
Drag Racer
All new Chassis for 2013
pettybludart
Well-Known Member
May 5/2013 10.79@122mph 60ft 1.48
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Guitar Jones
aka Angry Johnny
So you tried 4 sets of tires before you realized it wasn't the tires? Really? Ladder bars just hit the tires too hard, that's why almost every ladder bar car is yanking the front wheels in the air 4 feet or more. 4 links are the way to go, infinate adjustability, oh I forgot, you intentially made the car do that......
w2360Duster
No Patience
Wow that's exactly what my car has run, except my 60 was a 1.475 that's thru muffs with on radials with just SS springs and theres more in it
FJ5
Well-Known Member
Look at lisa go!!!!
pettybludart
Well-Known Member
I believe mine has more in it also,this was leaving at 2500rpm on the brake.Today I just got my jet extensions and modified bowl,so will see this weekend if any improvements.This was also at 68 *, not hot at all.Wow that's exactly what my car has run, except my 60 was a 1.475 that's thru muffs with on radials with just SS springs and theres more in it
dusterdragracer
Drag Racer
@ guitar jones....Your saying your running a 4 link? With all due respect to the picture of your car,your car leaves really ugly. I admire the numbers you are putting down though with your small block.
Lots of my friends have ran 4 links, and they were lost with them for a while.Some even found the sweet spot, then lost it.
I ran a back 1/2 ladder bar in my Duster for years,It wheelied about the same as my Valiant with Cal Tracs, and it was deadly consistant, took me to many wins.
I then had a 2200 'glass Chris Alston 85 Daytona with a 4 link, and although it ran the number, the traction was sub part, at no more then 8 different tracks.That was with 15"x14"x32's on it. I also ran 2 sets of MT's and 1 set hoosiers.I admit, I was only running about 550 H.P. which was too mild for that car.
If you look at what Steve said, he has the issue worked out. I got a lot of info from his experience.
In my humble opinion, 4 links are for big horse power, big C.I. cars.And if you have lots of time to test and tune, then you may get lucky and figure them out.For me, I want to go rounds.
Chris
P.S The second photo of the Duster is the same car later, only cosmetic changes, and yes, that is all BLACK TOP drag strip including the starting line, it was a converted air field at Silverwood Park in Idaho.So to me, the ladder bar was working just fine, and yes, I won 3 races there, and was runner up once.
Lots of my friends have ran 4 links, and they were lost with them for a while.Some even found the sweet spot, then lost it.
I ran a back 1/2 ladder bar in my Duster for years,It wheelied about the same as my Valiant with Cal Tracs, and it was deadly consistant, took me to many wins.
I then had a 2200 'glass Chris Alston 85 Daytona with a 4 link, and although it ran the number, the traction was sub part, at no more then 8 different tracks.That was with 15"x14"x32's on it. I also ran 2 sets of MT's and 1 set hoosiers.I admit, I was only running about 550 H.P. which was too mild for that car.
If you look at what Steve said, he has the issue worked out. I got a lot of info from his experience.
In my humble opinion, 4 links are for big horse power, big C.I. cars.And if you have lots of time to test and tune, then you may get lucky and figure them out.For me, I want to go rounds.
Chris
P.S The second photo of the Duster is the same car later, only cosmetic changes, and yes, that is all BLACK TOP drag strip including the starting line, it was a converted air field at Silverwood Park in Idaho.So to me, the ladder bar was working just fine, and yes, I won 3 races there, and was runner up once.
wheelsup73
Well-Known Member
In August of 2011 a friend of ours asked if he could post our 3 gear wheelstand video on Moparts and I said sure why not.I never heard of Moparts website. So he posted it and there was a big response. Lisa told me that one of the first guys to bash her wheelstand was Guitar Jones. I guess he is jealous because a girl can out drive him and has a much cooler car than his broken down bucket of bolts, that if its not the converter hub its that crappy engine he put together and blew up in the same day. I don't know what you are trying to prove but you make yourself look like an A$$. Lisa is very popular at our race track and there is not 1 person who would have anything negitive to say about her, and her car speaks for its self. Lisa is also a 4 time Sonoma Pro Et track champion and everyone who knows her knows she can drive as good as anyone at the track. So in the future keep your comments to yourself and concentrate on your own racing program as I see it needs alot of work.
dusterdragracer
Drag Racer
@wheelsup......well said, see my post. I was trying to be nice.
w2360Duster
No Patience
Guitars Scamp looks unsafe at any speed IMO, beyond a birdgage.
alleyoopmgv
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My 1971 Demon 440
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[ame]http://youtu.be/Zpoe1xWbVPI[/ame]
451Cuda
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I see he's still bashing the idea of running anything but a 4-link...
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=60508
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a1090cuda
Well-Known Member
If there was an issue with the tire set up how would a 4-link solve the issue? At best it would only band-aid the problem and screw up the chassis setting and possible create another problem. IMHO 4 links are for people that like to spend more time under their car than in it. No thanks!
Guitar Jones
aka Angry Johnny
Actually I didn't start bashing Lisa at all, she started on me and many other people there. There was a discussion about quench and piston to head clearance where I stated that I was running an engine with .027 piston to head clearance without issues for over 15 years and even after the heads came off for the new engine there was no evidence of any contact or problems. Lisa then tore into me about how I don't anything and she knows all these comp racers and Lingenfelter and blah, blah, and you CAN'T run less than .038 piston to head clearance and on and on and proceeded to basically call me a dumbass. AND THAT IS WHERE IT STARTED!! So let's set the story straight.
Yes my car broke the converter hub on it's first pass with the new engine. Eleven passes later I had a head gasket failure from a previous pass's fuel pump failure that took out the engine. When I found out that you guys purposely set your car up to do that wheel stand I laughed.
BTW that is the only pic I have of my car and it's an early one with the 360 that couldn't run with the piston to head clearance it had in it. Yes it still needs an anti roll bar, so what, it hooks in a car wash, and always has since the first pass was made on it. Sweet spot? Yeah, it's got it, first time everytime. I made one adjustment on my car since it's first couple a passes, I can't help if some guys don't know how to adjust their cars.
Yes my car broke the converter hub on it's first pass with the new engine. Eleven passes later I had a head gasket failure from a previous pass's fuel pump failure that took out the engine. When I found out that you guys purposely set your car up to do that wheel stand I laughed.
BTW that is the only pic I have of my car and it's an early one with the 360 that couldn't run with the piston to head clearance it had in it. Yes it still needs an anti roll bar, so what, it hooks in a car wash, and always has since the first pass was made on it. Sweet spot? Yeah, it's got it, first time everytime. I made one adjustment on my car since it's first couple a passes, I can't help if some guys don't know how to adjust their cars.
dusterdragracer
Drag Racer
@ guitar jones.......I will let all my 4 link friends know how stupid they are because of how together you have it with your 4 link!
Anti roll bars (AKA sway bars) are for cars that go around cornors.....Just think how much faster your car could be, and how many more races you could win if you had a ladder bar chassis........By the way. How many races have you won?
Enjoy your car, anyway you have it set up, because in the end, it is a Mopar and that is a good thing.You should just let your car speak for itself because it's actually really cool.
Chris
P.S. I really shouldn't be posting, because I have a 'glide and a 9" Ford, so my car isn't really a Mopar anyway!
Anti roll bars (AKA sway bars) are for cars that go around cornors.....Just think how much faster your car could be, and how many more races you could win if you had a ladder bar chassis........By the way. How many races have you won?
Enjoy your car, anyway you have it set up, because in the end, it is a Mopar and that is a good thing.You should just let your car speak for itself because it's actually really cool.
Chris
P.S. I really shouldn't be posting, because I have a 'glide and a 9" Ford, so my car isn't really a Mopar anyway!
nitrojunkee
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Damn... I guess I should take the Cal Trac's and monoleafs off of my Dart!
Guitar Jones
aka Angry Johnny
See that's how crap starts, I never said anyone was stupid. Just because you don't know something it doesn't make you stupid.
I win plenty of races, always been in the top ten at the track (usually in top three) every points series I raced, been track champion as well. This isn't an I'm smarter or better than you thing. And this my friend is an anti roll bar for a drag car. All the cool cars have them lol.
http://www.appliedracing.com/anti-roll-bar---professional-kit.html
I'm not taking this seriously so please don't take me wrong. The dealership I worked for closed and I'm pretty stressed looking for another job any way, I don't need any more. If I offended any one I apologize.
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