63 Dart 904 with rear pump thrust washer question

Thanks Beast, always loved vague stuff!

70 Thanks for the info. I have a 63 factory service manual and a copy of another manual in pdf but the breakdown is not the same as the one you posted, THANKS for that Great Drawing!! It shows the three washers as I remember them coming apart. Part #238 is the animal and it sits in front of and in back of the planetaries as I expected. The problem I am facing is when I have them installed as shown, I do not have enough output shaft sticking out to put the circlip on, the groove is not fully exposed so the circlip wont seat. I need another 1/16" to fit the circlip, WTF?

I have taken the output shaft out and made sure that the ball bearing seats fully into the rear pump impeller, checked that the govenor is correct- the pin goes through it and has the circlip on both sides and it slides freely. At one point after placing the annulus on the shaft into the rear drum then the planetary, the output shaft and the planetary would slide back and forth about 1/4". This would let the planetary silde into and out of the annulus so the top of the planetary assy would stick out of the annulus and then slide back into it. Seemed like a lot of end play to me but I cant seem to figure out where it is all coming. I took it apart and reassembled and now the end play doesnt seem to be there but I have to admit I said a little prayer (you know the kind with several 4 letter words) and came inside to write this post, take my 3 dogs for a walk and play my guitar for a while.

I still cant find my dang USB cable so I cant post the pictures but when I find it (I imagine it is lost somewhere with my mind at this time!) I will post them and see if I can make a video so yall can see what the hay is happening.

Thanks for all the help and thanks to all the vets out there. Happy Memorial Day weekend to all, Remember Memorial Day is a day to remember our fallen veterans and share some good food as we remember them and enjoy the freedom for which they gave their lives.

John
USAF 67-72