Rusty floor pan!

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Hey guys,

Well I peeled back the carpet to clean up and see whats under. There was a riveted patch panel that had a bunch of bad rivets. I drilled them out and this is what I have. I need options. I dont have a welder. If I use the correct sealer, would a new piece of sheet metal and some fresh rivets be ok. I am open to suggestions based on experience. Thanks so much guys.



Sorry guys having trouble with picture size.....the area cut out is about 12inches x 12 inches
 
Don't do a cheesy repair here.

$200 goes a long way at harbor freight for a welder, helmet, angle grinder and a cut/flap wheel assortment. You'll use it all the time. I did my whole car with what I suggest. Be sure to prep and clean that crossmember area and hit it with some weld thru primer so it doesn't rust out on you.
 
unless it is repaired with a welder it will not hold up, you can patch it up without a welder but how long you want it to last and get worse is all up to you....
 
Time to stir the pot. They are expoxy's that will get the job done. A buddy of mine runs a place that builds ambulances and they glue all the extended roofs on their ambulances. I put a new floor in a Cherokee I owned the same way and it has perfect! Just wanted to throw that out there for the people that do not weld.
 
I have a left floor pan if you need it. Price is right too. Free!! If you want to pay for the ride you can have it.
 
1968dartman said:
Time to stir the pot. They are expoxy's that will get the job done. A buddy of mine runs a place that builds ambulances and they glue all the extended roofs on their ambulances. I put a new floor in a Cherokee I owned the same way and it has perfect! Just wanted to throw that out there for the people that do not weld.
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Agreed this is a good alternative to welding it in.
 
Body shops are now and have been using this 2 part epoxy to do all this
work ... I will not be welding any 1/4 patch panels in.

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the worst part is buying the mixing gun to apply the epoxy. Other than that it is VERY easy, but as stated you have to make sure that the area is properly cleaned and prepped in order for it to work properly
 
Then after the floor has been repaired add frame connectors to your ride.
 
x2 on the panel adhesive, just be thorough on that, and paint the inside of the cross-member.
 
I've never liked the idea of panel adhesive on a unibody car floor. As said, the floor is very much a part of the car's structure. IMO, over time, flexing will work loose the adhesive. Think of all the trouble you're going to go through measuring, cutting to get everything just right to fit. You're only going to want to do all that once. Welding will be permanent. Get everything measured cut and ready and go rent one.
 
RustyRatRod said:
I've never liked the idea of panel adhesive on a unibody car floor. As said, the floor is very much a part of the car's structure. IMO, over time, flexing will work loose the adhesive. Think of all the trouble you're going to go through measuring, cutting to get everything just right to fit. You're only going to want to do all that once. Welding will be permanent. Get everything measured cut and ready and go rent one.
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I agree. I would not question making that part of the car permanent with welds
 
Use the RIGHT adhesive and it will not come apart. The trick is to use the RIGHT adhesive or yes it could be a problem. 3M makes a very good adhesive that has been tested and stood up very well. JMO
 
On a quarter panel yes 3M 2 part glue stuff is fine on a unibody car where the floor holds the whole car together um not so much.
 
Panel bond will be more than fine for a floor patch. He never said he was installing an entire floor pan.

Some of us use this stuff for a living.

Others talk about it but really don't know what they are talking about.

Im one of the people that uses it for a living .
 
1968FormulaS340 said:
Panel bond will be more than fine for a floor patch. He never said he was installing an entire floor pan.

Some of us use this stuff for a living.

Others talk about it but really don't know what they are talking about.

Im one of the people that uses it for a living .
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Well, isn't that just nice? You're also the first person who said this:

1968FormulaS340 said:
The floor on an A-body is structural, so in my opinion, No, it would not be ok.
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Now, in the words of Judge Judy, were you lying then, or are you lying now?

Oh nice Nova, btw.
 
1968dartman said:
the worst part is buying the mixing gun to apply the epoxy. Other than that it is VERY easy, but as stated you have to make sure that the area is properly cleaned and prepped in order for it to work properly
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Xs2 ....the applicator gun is usually available for rent from paint supply stores the one local to me has where you can put 100 bucks down and take the applicator gun and when you bring it back they give you your money back.

i just bought my own bcoz you guys know i do this day in and day out lol

i personally would weld it but if your going to use adhesive (your choice) i would use 3M 8115 ....8115 is some very capable stuff and it is applied to bare metal and features excellent corrosion protection.

otherwise you might be to find a weld for hire ......i know i do a lot of small welding for ppl and i never charge much so im sure if you live in a big city ....theres a lot of starving welders out there in this economy :protest:
 

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